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Old 13th April 2017, 04:50 AM   #1
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I am opening another discussion thread here, all pictures were posted using permission of the owner.

firstly, I am not offering anything for sale, nor I wanted to buy the blade. It's solely for educative purposes, so any opinion, even harsh one are welcome

as we all knew that in keris world, (sadly) artificial ageing is a common practice

so the story goes that this was found during a dig in irrigation ditch - and later cleaned and said to be Singosari / kabudhan era

the center ones are too badly damaged to be restored

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Old 13th April 2017, 04:51 AM   #2
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Old 13th April 2017, 09:29 AM   #3
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Very good restoration job!
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Old 13th April 2017, 03:32 PM   #4
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These three were found together in the same place?
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Old 13th April 2017, 04:10 PM   #5
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Very interesting how there is a vestigeal mendak fused to the pesi, but there are are no traces of vestigeal hilts... just to mention one of the things I find suspicious.

To me these blades have been artificially aged.

But maybe I am too paranoid.

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Old 13th April 2017, 07:00 PM   #6
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Very interesting how there is a vestigeal mendak fused to the pesi, but there are are no traces of vestigeal hilts... just to mention one of the things I find suspicious.

To me these blades have been artificially aged.

But maybe I am too paranoid.
Marius, what do you mean by "vestigial" hilts. This style of keris did not have intrinsic iron hilts like keris sajen. The hilts on this type of keris would most likely be wood which would not survive long periods of time (centuries) buried in the earth.
That doesn't remove all suspicion from these pieces, but i cannot see the lack of any remains of the hilt as cause for that suspicion.
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