Strange flintlock gun

corrado26 · 8th January 2020, 04:05 PM

Did anybody here see such a gun with such a strange flintlock? There are no marks or stamps on it and the brass pan reminds me on locks of the Osmanic Empire
corrado26

Kmaddock · 8th January 2020, 05:25 PM

Hi
Most locks I have seen with Brass Pans have been French so this would be my guess
have a google of
1777 French Flintlock rifle
and you will see similar style
regards
Ken

fernando · 8th January 2020, 05:54 PM

Bizarre !
It does have some 1777 looks indeed but, that whole lock design

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I assume the touch hole is on the first concavity, right ?

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corrado26 · 8th January 2020, 06:12 PM

No, the touchhole is in the middle. Compare it with the lock of an osmanic pistol

fernando · 8th January 2020, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corrado26

... No, the touchhole is in the middle...

Oh ... i see now; my bad

SchildaBrit · 8th January 2020, 09:15 PM

"There are no marks or stamps on it and the brass pan..."

I'm not surprised. The fuzzy photos make it difficult to judge, but the cock appears to have been made up by bending sheet metal. And that makes it, in my eyes, a modern effort "in the style of...".

Lockplate also looks like a bit of modern sheet metal, cock fixing screw also modern? It may include some original parts, but the lock assembly as a whole is IMHO not from the same period as the musket - which looks like a cut-down.

All this is just my opinion. Better photos would help.

8th January 2020, 04:05 PM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,165	Strange flintlock gun Did anybody here see such a gun with such a strange flintlock? There are no marks or stamps on it and the brass pan reminds me on locks of the Osmanic Empire corrado26 Attached Images

8th January 2020, 05:54 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,631	Bizarre ! It does have some 1777 looks indeed but, that whole lock design . I assume the touch hole is on the first concavity, right ? . Attached Images

8th January 2020, 06:12 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,165	No, the touchhole is in the middle. Compare it with the lock of an osmanic pistol Attached Images

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8th January 2020, 05:25 PM	#2
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 532	Hi Most locks I have seen with Brass Pans have been French so this would be my guess have a google of 1777 French Flintlock rifle and you will see similar style regards Ken

8th January 2020, 09:15 PM	#6
SchildaBrit Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 33	"There are no marks or stamps on it and the brass pan..." I'm not surprised. The fuzzy photos make it difficult to judge, but the cock appears to have been made up by bending sheet metal. And that makes it, in my eyes, a modern effort "in the style of...". Lockplate also looks like a bit of modern sheet metal, cock fixing screw also modern? It may include some original parts, but the lock assembly as a whole is IMHO not from the same period as the musket - which looks like a cut-down. All this is just my opinion. Better photos would help.