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Old 23rd September 2019, 09:46 AM   #1
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Default Pair of (Ottaman) flintlock pistols

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Looking for more information on this pair of (Ottoman?) flintlock pistols from around 1800? On the lock plate, is that an inscription maybe?
Length of each is 35 cm.

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Old 23rd September 2019, 07:35 PM   #2
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It seems to me that the construction is European, to sell Eastern market

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Old 25th September 2019, 03:03 PM   #3
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I have to say, since no one in this forum has made a translation of what is written on the lock plate, which is an imitation, a graph that says nothing, and that imitates Arabic or Oriental letters. It also seems to me that the cannon has a fake damask treatment, achieved with acid.

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Old 25th September 2019, 04:32 PM   #4
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In Robert Elgoods opus "Firearms of the Islamic World" you can read the following".
Many of the late 18th- and 19th-century Ottoman firearms were imported weapons from Europe, commonly from Liège or St. Etienne, mostly in French style, or inferior locally made copies in a rather florid French style, often using European locks.
French gunsmiths were unaffected by the decorative style of the third quarter of the 18th-century and continued to make pistols with rococo decoration. When, in the course, the French Revolution swept away the decorative exuberance associated with the Bourbons, the Turks continued to import pistols in the rococo style and these French or French-style large flintlock pistols are kalled kubur or horse pistols, in both Turkey or Balkans.

The pair of pistols shown is probably made by a Liége or St. Etienne gunmaker in the 1830s.
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Old 9th October 2019, 03:13 PM   #5
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Very nice pair of pistols. I agree with Corado. Look to be nice European exports.

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Old 14th October 2019, 10:13 PM   #6
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They are French pistols for the Turkish market, very beautiful...
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