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Old 30th December 2008, 10:50 PM   #1
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Hi Gentlemen

what I'm offering you in display is not very old, but ethnic knives

previously, I wrote
passing by Damas (Syria) I found some (!!) ... knives
here, two couples of ethnic khanjars

- 2 are from Jordan Bedouins khanjars, till yet carried by Arab Legion for intance

- 2 are from Syria, more precisely from Damas (they are specific)

they are not very old today
but will be antiquities in a couple of years .. LOL

I found them attractive, because are a testimony of countries, and period
per luck, on each set, one of them has a date engraving,
very easy to estimate they age

1963 for the Jordan knive
1923 for the Damacesne knive

comments and appreciations are welcomed

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ps: ... still ... one
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Old 30th December 2008, 11:37 PM   #2
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knives from Damas area

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Old 31st December 2008, 12:39 AM   #3
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Yup, shibriyas and Majjal Shams daggers.
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1. Majjal Shams is a Druze village. Is this type of handle specific for the locality?
2. Funny how they write dates: Islamic numbers with Gregorian calendar.
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Old 31st December 2008, 02:38 AM   #4
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For comparison a Shibriyya identified as coming from Palestine, and also another Khanjar identified as also coming from Majjal Shams, but with a nice neillo scabbard and a straight tapered blade. Both of these have featured on this Forum previously.
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1. Majjal Shams is a Druze village. Is this type of handle specific for the locality?


Ariel, you're correct - Majdel Shams (Bridge to the Sun) is Druze, and these handles are specific to this area. They are also made right in Damascus central market, for tourists, but the quality obviously is not the same as before. The handles were made from buffalo horn with camel bone and/or MOP incerts, but some new copies are made of plastic, and it's very hard to tell without the "needle test".
Here are two more examples:
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Old 1st January 2009, 04:49 PM   #6
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Always thought that Majjal Shams means Tower of Sun
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Old 1st January 2009, 06:50 PM   #7
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And as always, you're right, Ariel. It is tower, of course:-) Thanks for reminding me I am getting rusty with my Arabic:-)
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My Arabic is nonexistent except for some swear words:-), but it's just another Semitic language: in Hebrew, it's Migdal Shemesh. That's how I know.

BTW, any thought on the dating ( use of numbers)?
And, interestingly, the first shibriyya has an engraving of an eagle with down-turned wings: eery reminiscence of the Egyptian flag.
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I think that is a dove flying. I have seen it on many Shabriyas.
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Good point, Michael. Looks like dove.
Ariel, I can only speculate that if directed toward tourists it'd make sense to use gregorian dating. Moreover, hijra dating is not that common in modern days, I'd say not many would stamp a modern item with hijra year nowadays. Anyone agrees?
As for the eagle with downturned wings (stylized eagle) - it's also a Syrian National emblem symbolizing Syrian arms.
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Yup, dove is likely. It seems to be oriented along the blade's axis, I thought it was vertical. Symbol of peace on a dagger... Ironic.
As to the Eagle of Saladdin, on the Egyptian coat of arms it looks to the left, on the Syrian to the right. Only during the short-lived UAR the Egyptian one prevailed.
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