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Old 13th September 2019, 03:57 PM   #1
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Default Does Anyone Have Any Idea About This Asian (?) Sword?

Hi
As this is my first post I should first say a big thanks to all the contributors to these boards.
Iíve been getting interested in swords over the last few years, and Iíve learned a lot from this site. Apart from the knowledge gained, youíve also saved me money by steering me away from a couple of probable fakes.

Does anyone have any idea about this sword?

I bought it without knowing what it was. Normally Iíd say that was a dumb move, but I was very curious and it was affordable.

I canít see any makers or other marks.
It feels very solid, and fairly heavy for its size Ė 1kg without the scabbard.

The blade is 615mm, the hilt 150mm (not including the suspension loop).
I think the blade may be of a laminated type, but my inexperienced eyes canít confidently see through the dirt and tarnish. It has a pretty good edge.
The brass components of the hilt show traces of silver plating.

The shape of the blade (goose wing?) to me looks possibly Chinese, and the hilt looks very vaguely Tibetan...........maybe.

If I had to guess Iíd say it might be from China, perhaps from a local armoury or arsenal during the first half of the last century. But thatís just a wild, uneducated guess, I have no idea really.

Iíd be very grateful for your opinions.
Iím sorry the pics are pretty poor, Iím happy to try and take some better ones if itíd be helpful.

Thanks in advance,

Casaubon
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Old 15th September 2019, 02:57 AM   #2
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The picture is small but from what I can see, the metal tassel ring looks like the one on my NCO shin gunto. Considering the length of the sheath, could the tip of the sword have been broken?

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Old 15th September 2019, 12:08 PM   #3
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Sorry, but the closest that has been to Japan is China or Indonesia,etc.
Not a Japanese NCO or Shingunto IMHO.
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Old 15th September 2019, 05:43 PM   #4
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Best guess is Indonesian, imitating a Shin Gunto. We know these were made with very variable approaches to copying the original. Carried by officers in PETA ... The Indonesian Independence militia.
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Old 16th September 2019, 04:46 AM   #5
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Rich,

I'm sorry for being unclear. I didn't mean to imply that the sword was in any way Japanese but rather that the part may have come from a Japanese model 95 or may have been copied from same. I still wonder if the tip of the blade had been broken off.

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Old 16th September 2019, 08:12 AM   #6
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Almost bid on that one myself. It's an oddball and opened cheaply. Had other irons in the fire tho. The Dutch are fond of clip pointed swords, so may have been a Dutch East Indies area marriage. guard look dished like a Chinese one, tonku looks odd, grip is round like Burmese/Thai Dha/Daab, raised rim bits of wood over brass are odd, and the loop on the pommel may have been for a sword knot or tassel. All in all - unusual. Probably WW2, doubt it was in any way japanese military. Police maybe?
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