5 Keris hilts

[David]

It would be helpful to see the others besides the naga form from a side angle as well.

[apolaki]

Originally Posted by David

It would be helpful to see the others besides the naga form from a side angle as well.

Hi David, here are the side angles. Also, I am interested to know about the difference between "Fantasy" creations and legitimate forms.

I obtained these because I liked the variety it shows in Javanese deder. If it were your collection, would these be something to add or pass on?

Also, are there anything unique about them in general?

Thanks again for all your insight

[Marcokeris]

Originally Posted by apolaki

Hi David, here are the side angles. Also, I am interested to know about the difference between "Fantasy" creations and legitimate forms.

I obtained these because I liked the variety it shows in Javanese deder. If it were your collection, would these be something to add or pass on?

Also, are there anything unique about them in general?

Thanks again for all your insight

If was my collection, I would add the last two....but nothing unique. In fact i don't think these 4 deders are a fantasy creation.

[Jean]

By "fantasy" I only meant "not standard" and I admit that they are not bad pieces although I would not collect them just because I am a classical collector. The smallest piece has some age indeed

[Marcokeris]

two fantasies

[David]

Still not seeing the "fantasy".

[A. G. Maisey]

Really Marco?

Or perhaps you mean in the archaic sense:- "with sense" (Oxford)

[apolaki]

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

two fantasies

Wow thanks for sharing the photos Marco! I wonder if I were to polish my versions would they eventually become halus like yours? joking of course

[Rick]

I agree, it's most likely Whale bone.
We find old Pilot whale (Blackfish) bones in the salt marsh we live on the edge of. These bones have lots of 'pores' visible.
Pilot whales strand on the barrier beach during the Fall and used to wash over into the marsh after storms; now the town comes out with a bulldozer and buries them.
Kino has a kampilan with a whale bone handle and guard.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...+bone+kampilan