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Old 2nd March 2012, 10:01 PM   #1
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I can't see if it's a woots, I think no, the material of the handle can be an old used Kaketit.
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Old 2nd March 2012, 10:10 PM   #2
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I can't see if it's a woots, I think no, the material of the handle can be an old used Kaketit.
Whats a Kaketit?

It's a lovely thing. I've never seen a Khanjar with a blade like that!

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Old 2nd March 2012, 11:08 PM   #3
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I think that both, Stan and Eric as well think/speak about bakelite, an early form of plastic used in the beginning of the last century. Good possible that the handle is from this material. I don't know something about this daggers/ khanjar but all parts look genuine to my eyes and the blade is beautiful. I would bet that it is not a tourist item!!

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Old 2nd March 2012, 11:23 PM   #4
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Sorry, Not Kakelit but Bakelit.
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Old 2nd March 2012, 11:25 PM   #5
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There could be something to the Bakelite idea; the material, if worn regularly in local areas, might well suffer ultraviolet damage of this sort .
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Old 2nd March 2012, 11:33 PM   #6
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I think that both, Stan and Eric as well think/speak about bakelite, an early form of plastic used in the beginning of the last century. Good possible that the handle is from this material. I don't know something about this daggers/ khanjar but all parts look genuine to my eyes and the blade is beautiful. I would bet that it is not a tourist item!!

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Hi every body
some time ago, I gave explains about kind of Bakelite (Ottoman)
- karaman
- faturan
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=karaman

about the blade, I've a khanjar, with the same blade
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=khanjar

anyway, this khanjar is old without any doubt, not a "bazar's dagger" for tourist, nice catch

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Old 2nd March 2012, 11:38 PM   #7
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Hi every body
some time ago, I gave explains about kind of Bakelite (Ottoman)
- karaman
- faturan
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=karaman

about the blade, I've a khanjar, with the same blade
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=khanjar

anyway, this khanjar is old without any doubt, not a "bazar's dagger" for tourist, nice catch

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Hi Dom,

do you ever have seen such a worn bakelite handle?

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Old 2nd March 2012, 11:52 PM   #8
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do you ever have seen such a worn bakelite handle?

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good evening Sajen
frankly, no
but I should not be surprise, if one day I find one
with the link about "Mark's Jambiya" when I saw the handle
it's was the first idea come to my spirit ==> Karhaman

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Old 3rd March 2012, 12:07 AM   #9
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For more explications about this handle, when I burn it (slight) , it smell plastic.
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Old 3rd March 2012, 02:14 AM   #10
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Whats a Kaketit?

It's a lovely thing. I've never seen a Khanjar with a blade like that!

Where's Stu!
Here I am Don't forget we are 12 hours out with you people up north!
Definately NOT tourist IMHO. The scabbard looks Omani judging but the nice scroll work. Also there is gold thread there among the silver. Hilt could be plastic of some sort, or bakelite, or horn with some overfinish. No doubt Ibrahiim will have an opinion on this. Not modern (not 21st century junk)
very interesting blade. I have a Dharia with a multi fullered blade (pic attached)
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Old 3rd March 2012, 05:23 AM   #11
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In Russia you can find old shashkas with bakelite handle grips, so the material was actually used. The khanjar is just great and definitely antique, not tourist
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