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19th July 2016, 04:20 PM | #1 |
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This project looks like a real basket case to me!
I do not think it's possible to execute a sympathetic restoration. Your time involvement will build incrementally to the point where you'll have more "sweat equity" invested in it than it may be worth. I would carefully disassemble it completely. Study each piece carefully and decide whether it can be fixed or discarded and replaced. Once all of the small bits have been organized and planned, I would tackle the tang first. Without it being properly repaired, it would be difficult to proceed any further. Refit the bits to the tang but do your best to maintain patina. Good luck. |
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Also browsing through the catalogue there were many shamshir handles on which the pommel caps didn't cover the handle scales, but there is a noticeable gap filled up with adhesive. So this could be the original hilt assembly after all. This begs the question of why is there no trace of adhesive above the guard? |
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19th July 2016, 08:01 PM | #3 |
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While this may indeed be a 'basket case', as more historian than 'collector' or connoisseur, I always admire these battered old cases as old warriors who are in my opinion well worthy of restorative attention .
In my view, items should be 'stabilized' with as much use or repair of existing components as feasible. The damage and age found in these kinds of weapons to me stand as 'history' and literally untouched much in the sense of archaeologic discoveries. Perhaps a 'romantic' view admittedly, but I think profoundly valid. This appears to me to potentially a Persian shamshir which found use in the volatile frontiers of Afghanistan and India's northwest frontiers in the latter 19th century. The unusual lanyard ring on the pommel as well as the four dot devices emplaced in the blade are what suggests this to me. Not only worthy of necessary restoration, but continued research, as well exemplified by one of our long esteemed members who made a long running thread very much a group effort as he restored a 'basket case tulwar' from these regions. I always think of Philip Tom for the restoration and authentic stabilization of these kinds of weapons. There is history here, and that is not measured monetarily. |
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19th July 2016, 09:19 PM | #5 |
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After seeing the last photos, I am more convinced it is pattern welded, but very fine structure, somehow similar to the Hada on Japanese swords.
A very good blade! Last edited by mariusgmioc; 19th July 2016 at 09:51 PM. |
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Mariusgmioc, it is a very good blade, which is why I suggested Philip, who is a master with these kinds of blades and refinishing, and well known in our community. |
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20th July 2016, 05:02 AM | #7 | |
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Thanks for you comment Jim, you captured my feelings on this issue really well. This sword somehow really speaks to me, and though I wouldn't say cost is no issue at all, I do not see this as a financial investment. I'd love to ask peter, since I've seen some examples of of his work. But this issue http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21422 makes me a little hesitant to ship to the US. I've received some other suggestions per private message, which I think I will try first. |
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I have made very well experiences with a professional restorer in Olbernhau (not me!). He restored my Yatagan perfectly. Roland |
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