another smallsword

Kubur · 9th June 2021, 10:56 PM

Hi Guys

After the nice support I got from you, I decided to post another small sword.
This one I don't need the date as the sword was mentionned in Lhoste's book.
It's a French sword from early 18th.
Comment welcome and enjoy

Kubur

Kubur · 9th June 2021, 11:08 PM

I forgot the motto on the sword is very funny, it says

"If being rich stresses me

Simple thoughts make me happy"

Jim McDougall · 9th June 2021, 11:28 PM

Very nice example, and I would agree, early 18th century most probably, and French if so assessed. I'm not sure of the Lhost reference, but have no reason to disagree as he is a well regarded writer on French weapons.

The hexagonal section blade is contemporary with this type of cross section well known in Germany with heavier arming blades (of the 'dragoon' type c. 1728). By the mid century the trefoil and colichemarde blades had come into fashion.
The presence of the fully represented pas d' ane rings and the general shape, configuration and pommel correspond to small swords of first quarter 18thc

Whether French or not is the catch. These civilian swords followed general and popular designs, and the English often favored Continental fashion and design.
Usually only specific provenance or sometimes inscriptions, or if precious metal present, assay marks, can determine nationality on most of these.

It appears that if, as often the case, there is inscription etc. on blade, and crisp photos or summary of wording and images of any marks or symbols,
more can be determined.

*** crossed posts...............OK, thats pretty good motto !!! Guess I WAY do not have to worry about stress

Kubur · 11th June 2021, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

*** crossed posts...............OK, thats pretty good motto !!! Guess I WAY do not have to worry about stress

Me too!

At least we have simple thoughts.
I wonder if the original owner was very wealthy, or maybe a gambler.

9th June 2021, 10:56 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	another smallsword Hi Guys After the nice support I got from you, I decided to post another small sword. This one I don't need the date as the sword was mentionned in Lhoste's book. It's a French sword from early 18th. Comment welcome and enjoy Kubur Attached Images

9th June 2021, 11:08 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I forgot the motto on the sword is very funny, it says "If being rich stresses me Simple thoughts make me happy"

9th June 2021, 11:28 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,785	Very nice example, and I would agree, early 18th century most probably, and French if so assessed. I'm not sure of the Lhost reference, but have no reason to disagree as he is a well regarded writer on French weapons. The hexagonal section blade is contemporary with this type of cross section well known in Germany with heavier arming blades (of the 'dragoon' type c. 1728). By the mid century the trefoil and colichemarde blades had come into fashion. The presence of the fully represented pas d' ane rings and the general shape, configuration and pommel correspond to small swords of first quarter 18thc Whether French or not is the catch. These civilian swords followed general and popular designs, and the English often favored Continental fashion and design. Usually only specific provenance or sometimes inscriptions, or if precious metal present, assay marks, can determine nationality on most of these. It appears that if, as often the case, there is inscription etc. on blade, and crisp photos or summary of wording and images of any marks or symbols, more can be determined. *** crossed posts...............OK, thats pretty good motto !!! Guess I WAY do not have to worry about stress