Kilij translation of letters on the blade

ulfberth · 28th March 2015, 10:55 AM

Hello,

could someone help me with the translation of the letters on the blade of this kilij?
This is normally not my field of collection however I always wanted a good kilij and I really like the blade on this one and that it has more the look of a combat weapon instead of a more parade like style.
They told me the writing is in old Persian and that the sword was 18th century.
18th century seems right to me, I haven't got a clue about the writing.

All help is welcome, thanks beforehand

Ulfberth

AJ1356 · 29th March 2015, 11:08 PM

it reads
There is no deity but Allah and Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah.

ulfberth · 30th March 2015, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ1356

it reads
There is no deity but Allah and Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah.

Thank you for you'r help AJ !

Ulfberth

ariel · 30th March 2015, 12:26 PM

I think the lockets do not belong here: they are obviously too small , and the suspension rings are integral and ovoid, Persian style. Ottomans used separate rings that were circular.

ulfberth · 30th March 2015, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

I think the lockets do not belong here: they are obviously too small , and the suspension rings are integral and ovoid, Persian style. Ottomans used separate rings that were circular.

Hi Ariel,

thank you for sharing your thoughts, the sword is most probably Persian.
The mounts on the scabbard are not to small it is the leather that has shrunken, as is often the case on older scabbards.

Kind regards

Ulfberth

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ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 382	Kilij translation of letters on the blade Hello, could someone help me with the translation of the letters on the blade of this kilij? This is normally not my field of collection however I always wanted a good kilij and I really like the blade on this one and that it has more the look of a combat weapon instead of a more parade like style. They told me the writing is in old Persian and that the sword was 18th century. 18th century seems right to me, I haven't got a clue about the writing. All help is welcome, thanks beforehand Ulfberth Attached Images

29th March 2015, 11:08 PM	#2
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	it reads There is no deity but Allah and Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah.

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I think the lockets do not belong here: they are obviously too small , and the suspension rings are integral and ovoid, Persian style. Ottomans used separate rings that were circular.