Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 2nd February 2013, 12:44 AM   #1
asomotif
Member
 
asomotif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,221
Default UNUSUAL CARVED RAWIT KNIFE.

I was able to buy this unusual rawit knife.

The first time that I see an example with such elaborate carving.
Any suggestions as to origin and age ?

Best regards,
Willem
Attached Images
   
asomotif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd February 2013, 02:22 PM   #2
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,483
Default

Hi Willem,

very nice piece. I think all rawit are from the Batak or I am wrong? A similar one is shown in Alberts book at page 113, it has as well this flattened scabbard and a similar hilt form.

Best,

Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd February 2013, 09:39 PM   #3
asomotif
Member
 
asomotif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,221
Default

Hello Detlef,

I checked the forum and the web, but only found rawit with plain undecorated hilts. Indeed the flattened scabbard is very common and specific for the rawit.

funny, I did not check Albert's book yet (TWOIA)
Although the picture is very small, that specimen indeed also has a decorated hilt.

The decorated hilt was the main reason to post it.
It does not seem common on these batak weapons. also the floral pattern does not appear on other batak weapons as far as I recall.

Because I did not check Van Zonneveld yet I thought this was pretty rare.
Ps, it still is not common to have decoration on the hilt imho. 1 example in Van Zonneveld, and 1 here in front of me

Maybe womeone has other examples with decorated hilts.

Ps. do you think that this one had a metal sleeve on the lower part of the hilt once ?

Best regards,
Willem
asomotif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd February 2013, 10:41 PM   #4
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,483
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by asomotif
Ps. do you think that this one had a metal sleeve on the lower part of the hilt once ?
Hello Willem,

I don't think so. First, the patination at this part is the same as at the upper part of the hilt, second, it would be the first one I have seen until now with collar.

Best regards,

Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd February 2013, 11:51 PM   #5
asomotif
Member
 
asomotif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,221
Default

Hi Detlef,

Based on the patina I also think there was no collar for a long time, but I would not say that this type of knife never has a collar.
Here 2 examples that are different in decoration, but surely batak and with collar.
Attached Images
  
asomotif is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.