reversed hilt on palembang keris

asomotif · 15th April 2011, 11:39 PM

I just bought this palembang keris from an old pre ww2 collection.

The hilt has the best fit to the peksi when it is backwards.

Is this normal ? Any other examples ?

Thanks an best regards,
Willem

BluErf · 16th April 2011, 02:28 AM

The angle at which the batang joins with the sampir is very odd. Can we see a picture of the front of the sheath please? How does the hilt look when it is fixed facing the front? Thanks.

Sajen · 16th April 2011, 01:00 PM

Hello Willem,

I think that the odd look of the join with sampir and batang depend of the perspective you take the picture. Please take a picture from the other side and when the batang is straight vertical. The handle is certain backwards and wrong like this. The pendokok is missing.

My first picture shows how to look your keris with correct attached handle, the two others show how irritating can look a keris when you photograph it with a other perspective.

BTW, can we see the blade? Is it a straight blade?

Regards,

Detlef

BluErf · 16th April 2011, 03:20 PM

Hi Detlef,

The angle of the joint for the 2nd Palembang keris is a bit odd even from the front.

Sajen · 16th April 2011, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluErf

Hi Detlef,

The angle of the joint for the 2nd Palembang keris is a bit odd even from the front.

Hi Kai Wee,

yes, for sure but like this I received the keris some years ago in Indonesia. The sampir is most proable the original one since the blade fits perfect inside. The cutting point was covered by time with a band from silver which is lost same as the other one at the batang. My guess is that the batang is a later replacement because the original one was broken and maybe was also a part of the sampir broken. It seems to be an old repair. I have a second Palembang keris with a similar joint from batang and sampir also received like this from Indonesia.

Regards,

Detlef

asomotif · 17th April 2011, 12:24 AM

Sorry for the bad pictures.
I took them in the evening and the strange angle was to avoid frontal flaslight

Here some daylight pictures with the hilt fitted in a 'normal' position.

In this position the hilt is not fitting smoothly on the peksi, and it tends to turn either right or left to another position.

15th April 2011, 11:39 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	reversed hilt on palembang keris I just bought this palembang keris from an old pre ww2 collection. The hilt has the best fit to the peksi when it is backwards. Is this normal ? Any other examples ? Thanks an best regards, Willem Attached Images

16th April 2011, 01:00 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,469	Hello Willem, I think that the odd look of the join with sampir and batang depend of the perspective you take the picture. Please take a picture from the other side and when the batang is straight vertical. The handle is certain backwards and wrong like this. The pendokok is missing. My first picture shows how to look your keris with correct attached handle, the two others show how irritating can look a keris when you photograph it with a other perspective. BTW, can we see the blade? Is it a straight blade? Regards, Detlef Attached Images Last edited by Sajen; 16th April 2011 at 01:26 PM.

17th April 2011, 12:24 AM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	Sorry for the bad pictures. I took them in the evening and the strange angle was to avoid frontal flaslight Here some daylight pictures with the hilt fitted in a 'normal' position. In this position the hilt is not fitting smoothly on the peksi, and it tends to turn either right or left to another position. Attached Images

16th April 2011, 02:28 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	The angle at which the batang joins with the sampir is very odd. Can we see a picture of the front of the sheath please? How does the hilt look when it is fixed facing the front? Thanks.

16th April 2011, 03:20 PM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Detlef, The angle of the joint for the 2nd Palembang keris is a bit odd even from the front.