What is this??

kahnjar1 · 3rd July 2011, 01:26 AM

Have just picked this up, and the pics are the sellers. Has to be Moroccan judging by the blade style, but I have not seen a sword version of the Koumyya dagger before. No reference in any of my books either. Blade length is 52cm (20 1/2")
What do we think Gentlemen?

A.alnakkas · 3rd July 2011, 01:38 AM

Hilt style looks very indian to me. This is either a composite or an indian blacksmith experimenting by mixing morrocan and indian styles. Blade doesnt really suggest a morrocan origin, the scabbard does though.

A.alnakkas · 3rd July 2011, 01:40 AM

After a 2nd look, the blade does look very similar to koummya blades.

Rick · 3rd July 2011, 02:18 AM

The blade engraving reminds me of Okir style work .
Doubt that it is Phillipine though .

Gavin Nugent · 3rd July 2011, 06:01 AM

Stu,

It seems this one did the rounds once before;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=jewish+sosun

It appears to be an Indian Moroccan Malay hybrid.

Gav

kahnjar1 · 3rd July 2011, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebooter

Stu,

It seems this one did the rounds once before;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=jewish+sosun

It appears to be an Indian Moroccan Malay hybrid.

Gav

...so there are at least two of these (whatever they are) in existance! The one in the previous post,(and thanks for the link), has very different blade decoration, and the scabbard has two bands, where mine does not have any. Also the decoration at the scabbard mouth and on the hilt against the scabbard is diofferent. Mine is all circle shape decoration and the other is not. Comparative pics attached......
....which means we have an Indian hilt maker who likes moroccan style blades??..... or they are in fact some unknown Moroccan sword/knife. I see from the comments in the other post, that that particular one came with a Nimcha.....so Morocco??
But still the question....What is it?

3rd July 2011, 01:26 AM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,730	What is this?? Have just picked this up, and the pics are the sellers. Has to be Moroccan judging by the blade style, but I have not seen a sword version of the Koumyya dagger before. No reference in any of my books either. Blade length is 52cm (20 1/2") What do we think Gentlemen? Attached Images

3rd July 2011, 06:01 AM	#5
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	one the rounds before Stu, It seems this one did the rounds once before; http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=jewish+sosun It appears to be an Indian Moroccan Malay hybrid. Gav

3rd July 2011, 01:38 AM	#2
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,338	Hilt style looks very indian to me. This is either a composite or an indian blacksmith experimenting by mixing morrocan and indian styles. Blade doesnt really suggest a morrocan origin, the scabbard does though.

3rd July 2011, 01:40 AM	#3
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,338	After a 2nd look, the blade does look very similar to koummya blades.

3rd July 2011, 02:18 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,264	The blade engraving reminds me of Okir style work . Doubt that it is Phillipine though .