German ? hunting dagger for ID

Cerjak · 16th April 2015, 02:54 PM

It is my first hunting dagger ,simple edge
Over all 53 cm blade 43 cm. no marks visible
It looks to be in excavation condition.
I would like to know how old it could be
Any comment on it will be welcome.

kronckew · 16th April 2015, 03:02 PM

looks like it's been fairly aggressively cleaned & polished a bit. makes it harder to tell the age. at least they didn't use an angle grinder. no markings or distinctive decorative features other than the plain shell doesn't help either. decent wear & patina on the grip antler, could be anywhere from a few decades to a few hundred years old.

Cerjak · 16th April 2015, 04:06 PM

one more pic

Fernando K · 16th April 2015, 11:16 PM

Hello, Cerjak

In the catalog Carl Eickhorn - Solingen, 1927, there is a very similar hunting knife with antler handle and deer and the shell, leaf 32mm wide (number 174 in the catalog) black leather sheath "montadura polished steel ".

Tomorrow I'll upload a photo, because I have no scanner

Affectionately. Fernando

M ELEY · 16th April 2015, 11:19 PM

Very nice piece! Although not technically a hanger, still classified as a hirshfanger, I would imagine. Judging from the simplicity of the crossguard and style, I'd wager 1750-1800. There were earlier types like this in trousses, likewise similar types into the 19th c, but I feel confortable with the dates I presented...until someone else comes along and proves me wrong!

Cerjak · 17th April 2015, 06:21 AM

Hello Fernando K and M ELEY

Thank you for your comment.
The shell is 45 mm * 35 mm and the blade 32 mm wide.
Best

Cerjak

fernando · 17th April 2015, 12:49 PM

Doesn't it look like a military bayonet blade ?

... Mounted in the German style, with the scallop shell langet ?
Sorry if i am talking nonsense

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Roland_M · 17th April 2015, 01:08 PM

Hello,

a nice hunting dagger (German: Hirschfänger, or deer catcher) from Germany or Austria.

I would say 18th to mid 19th century and a piece of a nobleman or forester.

Here is a similar dagger from Austria:
"http://www.beck-militaria.de/Blankwaffen/Deutschland/Saebel-Degen/Oesterreich-Hirschfaenger-eines-Edlen-oder-hoeheren-Forstbeamten::9916.html"

16th April 2015, 02:54 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	German ? hunting dagger for ID It is my first hunting dagger ,simple edge Over all 53 cm blade 43 cm. no marks visible It looks to be in excavation condition. I would like to know how old it could be Any comment on it will be welcome. Attached Images

16th April 2015, 04:06 PM	#3
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	one more pic one more pic Attached Images

16th April 2015, 03:02 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,150	looks like it's been fairly aggressively cleaned & polished a bit. makes it harder to tell the age. at least they didn't use an angle grinder. no markings or distinctive decorative features other than the plain shell doesn't help either. decent wear & patina on the grip antler, could be anywhere from a few decades to a few hundred years old.

16th April 2015, 11:16 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 663	Hello, Cerjak In the catalog Carl Eickhorn - Solingen, 1927, there is a very similar hunting knife with antler handle and deer and the shell, leaf 32mm wide (number 174 in the catalog) black leather sheath "montadura polished steel ". Tomorrow I'll upload a photo, because I have no scanner Affectionately. Fernando

16th April 2015, 11:19 PM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,070	Very nice piece! Although not technically a hanger, still classified as a hirshfanger, I would imagine. Judging from the simplicity of the crossguard and style, I'd wager 1750-1800. There were earlier types like this in trousses, likewise similar types into the 19th c, but I feel confortable with the dates I presented...until someone else comes along and proves me wrong!

17th April 2015, 06:21 AM	#6
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	Hello Fernando K and M ELEY Thank you for your comment. The shell is 45 mm * 35 mm and the blade 32 mm wide. Best Cerjak

17th April 2015, 12:49 PM	#7
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Doesn't it look like a military bayonet blade ? ... Mounted in the German style, with the scallop shell langet ? Sorry if i am talking nonsense .

17th April 2015, 01:08 PM	#8
Roland_M Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 523	Hello, a nice hunting dagger (German: Hirschfänger, or deer catcher) from Germany or Austria. I would say 18th to mid 19th century and a piece of a nobleman or forester. Here is a similar dagger from Austria: "http://www.beck-militaria.de/Blankwaffen/Deutschland/Saebel-Degen/Oesterreich-Hirschfaenger-eines-Edlen-oder-hoeheren-Forstbeamten::9916.html"