Any comments ?

Freddy · 18th March 2005, 08:27 PM

Just found this small shield (24 cm/9,6 inches) on the antique market. I don't know anything about it. Has anyone any ideas ?

There are some small holes near the rim. A repair has been made (see last pic).

Tim Simmons · 18th March 2005, 08:37 PM

Hi Freddy.The lines on convex surface look as if it has been spun to shape{spinning}I do not know the history of this technique.To me it does not look Indo/Persian.I do not think I helped that much.Tim

dennee · 18th March 2005, 08:44 PM

looks like a buckler from Aceh

Rick · 18th March 2005, 08:47 PM

Sumatran , from Aceh perhaps ?
They used small round shields like these .

My guess .

Conogre · 19th March 2005, 03:25 AM

I'll chime in on agreement with Aceh being a leading contender although brass bucklers, from what I've been able to determine, were widespread and valued throughout the Philippine and Malay archipelagos....how many different tribes actually made them I don't know, but I've seen them attributed to well over a dozen different tribes and regions, with some "spun", some sand cast and others made through the lost wax method yet all surprisingly similar in size and appearance even into Persia, India and SE Asia.
Normally there would be a cusion or pillow, often leather on battle pieces, with the back sometimes covered in fabric glued on with an animal/dairy glue and two straps, usually leather or chain, running from the rings for a secure grip.
It's hard to tell if the repair was from a manufacturing flaw or if it was repaired battle damage, such as a sword or axe cut, possibly even a bullet hole.
SWEET aquisition.
Mike
ps....I've even seen similar attributed to Benin in Africa, although this one looks very much like Acehan or nearby.

VVV · 19th March 2005, 09:21 AM

Yes, it's a Peurise teumaga from Aceh, Sumatra.
Have an identical myself.

Mike

Freddy · 19th March 2005, 06:24 PM

Mike, you are right !

I looked in the book 'Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago' and found an almost identical shield. As far as I can see, the decoration is the same. Even the diameter is almost identical.

Thanks for the help, guys.

Freddy

18th March 2005, 08:27 PM	#1
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Any comments ? Just found this small shield (24 cm/9,6 inches) on the antique market. I don't know anything about it. Has anyone any ideas ? There are some small holes near the rim. A repair has been made (see last pic).

18th March 2005, 08:47 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Acehenese (sp?) Sumatran , from Aceh perhaps ? They used small round shields like these . My guess .

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18th March 2005, 08:37 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,736	Hi Freddy.The lines on convex surface look as if it has been spun to shape{spinning}I do not know the history of this technique.To me it does not look Indo/Persian.I do not think I helped that much.Tim

18th March 2005, 08:44 PM	#3
dennee Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 186	looks like a buckler from Aceh

19th March 2005, 03:25 AM	#5
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	I'll chime in on agreement with Aceh being a leading contender although brass bucklers, from what I've been able to determine, were widespread and valued throughout the Philippine and Malay archipelagos....how many different tribes actually made them I don't know, but I've seen them attributed to well over a dozen different tribes and regions, with some "spun", some sand cast and others made through the lost wax method yet all surprisingly similar in size and appearance even into Persia, India and SE Asia. Normally there would be a cusion or pillow, often leather on battle pieces, with the back sometimes covered in fabric glued on with an animal/dairy glue and two straps, usually leather or chain, running from the rings for a secure grip. It's hard to tell if the repair was from a manufacturing flaw or if it was repaired battle damage, such as a sword or axe cut, possibly even a bullet hole. SWEET aquisition. Mike ps....I've even seen similar attributed to Benin in Africa, although this one looks very much like Acehan or nearby.

19th March 2005, 09:21 AM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Yes, it's a Peurise teumaga from Aceh, Sumatra. Have an identical myself. Mike

19th March 2005, 06:24 PM	#7
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Mike, you are right ! I looked in the book 'Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago' and found an almost identical shield. As far as I can see, the decoration is the same. Even the diameter is almost identical. Thanks for the help, guys. Freddy