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Old 16th September 2018, 07:24 AM   #1
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Good Morning!

Here are some photos of my Swedish flintlock musket.

This muscet is found here in Finland from "Savo-area" where border there between Sweden and Russia was locatet on those days. And Finland was part of Sweden. Whole border was about 1000km long-so not very easy to keep it on eye...

Then started Napolean wars and battle-area against Sweden and Russia was here in Finland .This gun was one of "Savo Prigade" muscet. War battled years 1808-09 and Swedish (Finnish) army loss that war and Finland came part of Russia.

Muscet is modell 1799 if I'm right (I got one older 1747 model with this,but it is a bit modified one). Caliber is about 18,5mm and lenght of muscet is ca. 145cm. And is heavy...

One example of Finnish history...

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Old 16th September 2018, 11:35 AM   #2
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Congratulations for your musket, Markku.
A very interesting lock version of the early "doglock" type.
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Old 16th September 2018, 01:54 PM   #3
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Very nice musket Markku.

It appears in good order, and yes, the dog catch and rear sight are hall -marks of these muskets, and Swedish arms of that period in general.
We do see a few turn up in the UK as well, but how they got there I do not know!
I am pleased you found such a nice example. Will you use it at all?

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Old 16th September 2018, 03:31 PM   #4
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Hi all!

Yes-it is in full shooting condition-man who sold
it to me used it hunting only small of time ago.


And too use shooting "normal" situation-shows,weddings,partys an so on.

I have horn and all other "things" for use this.But
not tested yet...


Other older one I have I'm not sure how good it
is-but looks nice.It has a bit bigger bore- ca. 20mm
and is longer and heavier.

Many people moved to America/Canada from here 18'---19' century (and
beginning of 20' ) -they
went there by ship often via England and some of them sold their guns in UK harbours for having money?

Or perhaps musket are sold there from Sweden ? Who knows?

Even sold from America to UK-I belive Civil war weapons were
quite international -all used what found.And finnish origin people
was there in USA a lot of number.

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Old 16th September 2018, 09:39 PM   #5
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A very nice pair, Markku! They look very nice indeed.
I am please this one is in good working order!

I am interested also in the Finnish seal -hunting guns, if you ever run across any photographs... Often with the "Baltic" lock.

Very best wishes,
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Old 17th September 2018, 05:34 AM   #6
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Hi Richard!

One way to see and read Finnish Seal-guns is first put
computer "www.google.fi"----then write word "hyljepyssy".

Youl'l find photos and other data of them-and using google translator
perhaps can have it your language.

One my friend owns seal gun made Mauser-rifle lock and it is now
caliber 7x54. Patrons have to make self to this.Pitty I don't have
photos.

Old ones made using all kind of parts-muskets...but some smiths
made whole rifle self.

One perhaps interesting history is when Krim war was active-came British warships to Finnish coast (we where part of Russia) -and one battle was front of Kokkola town .Day of battle was 7th of June 1854. Two British boats-HMS Vulturen and HMS Odin where those boats.

HMS Vulturen and HMS Odin send 9 barcasses -leaders ltn. Burton and ltn.Wise and full group of men on board. But they didn't know that there was waiting group of Finnish seal-hunter with guns back buildings.And those men really can shoot! When sealhunter started-Finnish soldiers too started with own guns and canons... So it happens that Finnish group branched one barcass and took British soldiers as prisoners. British navy loosed 1 barcass, 3 officers and 15 seaman died...3 officers and 31 seaman was captured.

Name of battle was "Halkokarin kahakka" and best seal hunter named Matts Kankkonen-he shot First Ltn. Garrington -got very high badge (St. Georgs Knight medal) from Russian Empire Nikolai 1.st- and Kokkonen was painted-painting is now in our president's "castle". Here are photos of that battle-borrowed from i-net.

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Old 17th September 2018, 05:41 AM   #7
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...One photo more (borroved from "IltaSanomat".)

* President Niinistö...Mr. Kankkonen and Prince William...

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Thank you for the search word for the sealing guns Markku! Very kind of you!
Thank you also for the good photographs!

Yes, I know the story of the battle you mention, and the accurate fire of the Finn seal hunters! They were very good with these primitive -looking rifles.
I had photos one time of the rifle used by Matts Kankkonen. A very good shot!
Mind, Simo Hayha maybe had him beat! :-)

I will send a link to a good friend back in England, who has a long time interest in the Crimean War.

Thank you for reminding me of it, as I had forgotten the name.

Very best wishes,
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