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Old 22nd April 2024, 08:26 PM   #1
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Default Swiss spiked wooden mace , morgenstern , how old ???

Hello dear members,

I collect this long wooden stick- mace in central Switzerland .
Seems authentic not a late repro.
Pretty huge model
The shaft has been carved on a long stock, squared shape ( not 6 or 8 as I saw ) and a long forged spike , on the four sides, one lateral spike is missing and there are worm holes in ( to treat...) especially at the basis so I guess the shaft was longer before...


It seems pretty old, but how can we date it ?

I read that this kind of Morgenstern were peasant swiss weapons starting in 1600 and ending in circa 1900.
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Old 22nd April 2024, 08:29 PM   #2
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Sorry,Better with some pictures
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Old 24th April 2024, 07:33 PM   #3
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Hello,
Many views but no comment,
I add what I found:
The cousin of the morgenstern,
I like the Holy Water sprinkler name !
This one said to be early 16th century,
I like these basic brutal shape
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Old 24th April 2024, 07:38 PM   #4
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For the xl size,
Here a comparison with my indonesian spear.
Sure, not same use , not same people
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Hello,
Looking through old posts, I found very little about Morgensterns and their wooden spiked cousins.
I present here the Flemish cousin of the Morgenstern named Goedendag or Goedendac, Guten Tag - to say hello to the enemy or good dagger.
Plus a sort of large stick with a spear at the end to counter horsemen and also variant with side point like wooden Morgensterns.
existence since the 13th-14th century and a more massive and shorter handle
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