unknown powder flask

Wodimi · 15th July 2017, 02:34 AM

thanks for your input and mine looks on the back like yours. A wooden body covered with leather.
I'm a little bit confused, because I found in the net a flask with nearly the same shape, but complete iron. In that case they say German 16th cent.
https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/ca.../322/lot/11579

kahnjar1 · 15th July 2017, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wodimi

thanks for your input and mine looks on the back like yours. A wooden body covered with leather.
I'm a little bit confused, because I found in the net a flask with nearly the same shape, but complete iron. In that case they say German 16th cent.
https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/ca.../322/lot/11579

I see your point but really the only similarity is the shape. No doubt the Auction House is accurate in it's description???? Often they are not, though IMHO in this case the decoration certainly LOOKS European.
I stick with Afghani for my flask and yours.
As a matter of interest, is there a powder cut off, and how does it function?
Stu

Wodimi · 15th July 2017, 10:07 AM

I think you're right with your points, it sounds logic and also right there is no powder cut off, also it has never been there.
If not Africa/Morocco I should overthink to sell it, even it's a real beauty and with good age.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 15th July 2017, 10:53 AM

Great question and close to call... Here are some leather covered studded Moroccan flasks. Apparently Berber.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Wodimi · 15th July 2017, 12:39 PM

nice bottles Ibrahiim, congratulation. Are they really leather covered? I know them only complete made of wood including the upper long tube.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 15th July 2017, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wodimi

nice bottles Ibrahiim, congratulation. Are they really leather covered? I know them only complete made of wood including the upper long tube.

I agree wood.

rickystl · 15th July 2017, 08:23 PM

Hi Wodimi.

As for the flask that you originally posted, I agree with Stu. The spout and iron work look Afghan. Something interesting to note is the pour spout being positioned about 60 degrees from vertical. I believe this was so the spout would be positioned away from the torso while on horse/camel back.
You will note that many of these flasks have a carrying ring on each side of the flask, and a third device at the center back of the flask. I believe this center device was used to hang the flask from a hook on the waist belt while riding. And the shoulder strap so the flask would not be lost, or while on foot. Much the way a sword belt works.
The last two wooden flasks posted I believe one or both to be Algerian.
Anyway, nice Afghan flask in a style you don't generally see.

Rick

15th July 2017, 10:53 AM	#4
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Great question and close to call... Here are some leather covered studded Moroccan flasks. Apparently Berber. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Attached Images

15th July 2017, 12:39 PM	#5
Wodimi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 75	nice bottles Ibrahiim, congratulation. Are they really leather covered? I know them only complete made of wood including the upper long tube. Attached Images

15th July 2017, 02:34 AM	#1
Wodimi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 75	thanks for your input and mine looks on the back like yours. A wooden body covered with leather. I'm a little bit confused, because I found in the net a flask with nearly the same shape, but complete iron. In that case they say German 16th cent. https://www.aspireauctions.com/#!/ca.../322/lot/11579

15th July 2017, 10:07 AM	#3
Wodimi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 75	I think you're right with your points, it sounds logic and also right there is no powder cut off, also it has never been there. If not Africa/Morocco I should overthink to sell it, even it's a real beauty and with good age.

15th July 2017, 08:23 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Hi Wodimi. As for the flask that you originally posted, I agree with Stu. The spout and iron work look Afghan. Something interesting to note is the pour spout being positioned about 60 degrees from vertical. I believe this was so the spout would be positioned away from the torso while on horse/camel back. You will note that many of these flasks have a carrying ring on each side of the flask, and a third device at the center back of the flask. I believe this center device was used to hang the flask from a hook on the waist belt while riding. And the shoulder strap so the flask would not be lost, or while on foot. Much the way a sword belt works. The last two wooden flasks posted I believe one or both to be Algerian. Anyway, nice Afghan flask in a style you don't generally see. Rick