Assistance please

[A. G. Maisey]

Marcus and some other members posted pics of a couple of similar daggers to these in another thread, but these are, I think, sufficiently different to warrant a new thread, even though to me, they appear related to the ones already shown.

They are completely outside my area of interest, and I do not know what they are, nor what period they come from.

Opinions will be welcome.

Thank you.

[David]

Alan, these are outside my area as well as you probably know, but the second one you show looks like a form of gaucho knife to me and you my find this resource helpful.
http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/facon/criollo.html

[A. G. Maisey]

Its not a gaucho David, it actually came from Italy to New Zealand at the end of the 19th century, and had been in the family of the bloke I got it from for generations. I was told years ago that it is a "Mediterranean Dirk", but from what little of this stuff I understand that is a very generic sort of term. I reckon it is sort of a grandfather of the gaucho. I'm hoping somebody can tell me from where it originally came and about how old it is. I had a pretty good collection of gaucho knives at one time, not a lot, maybe 10 or 12, and this knife is similar, but much smaller, lighter, older than any of the gauchos I had.

[kronckew]

they both look mediterranean to me. big area tho. i'd reduce that to italy and west thru spain.

[A. G. Maisey]

Thanks Kronckew, that's about my opinion too, but I'm hoping somebody might know a little more than that.

[Henk]

I think these knives are corsican vendetta knives. 19th mid 20th century.