Maguindanao Kris with Fine Okir Hilt and Ivory Pommel

F. de Luzon · 29th March 2018, 03:53 PM

Hi Kronckew,

I'll post some close-ups of the blade for you tomorrow. Thanks for your insights.

Fernando

Battara · 29th March 2018, 04:23 PM

What a nice piece!

Actually I would say that the blade is Maguindanao, while the hilt is Maranao or made by a Maranao craftsman (based on the Maranao okir). This is not unheard of since these tribal areas were next to each other.

Also it looks like the surface of the orange bands of the hilt are made of suassa.

Is there a scabbard?

F. de Luzon · 29th March 2018, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

What a nice piece!

Actually I would say that the blade is Maguindanao, while the hilt is Maranao or made by a Maranao craftsman (based on the Maranao okir). This is not unheard of since these tribal areas were next to each other.

Also it looks like the surface of the orange bands of the hilt are made of suassa.

Is there a scabbard?

Hi Battara,

I was wondering if that hilt was Maranao. It comes with a Sulu style scabbard. So, it's a Maguindanao blade with a Maranao hilt and Sulu scabbard. Is it a cross over?

Regarding the hilt, I cleaned it and it turned white, almost like silver, then went back to this color after a few months. Is that a characteristic of swassa?

Thank you!

Fernando

Battara · 29th March 2018, 07:41 PM

Oh I see...........well it might not be suassa then, but a silver/copper mix to look like suassa. It will take testing by a jeweler to be sure which one.

Please post the scabbard so I can better determine if Sulu or what.

Crossovers are not unheard of........

F. de Luzon · 30th March 2018, 11:17 AM

Here are some close ups of the blade.

F. de Luzon · 30th March 2018, 11:29 AM

Hi Battara,

Below are pictures of the scabbard. The first one is the one it came with. I think it's a Sulu type. The mouth of the scabbard is slightly wider than the width of the gangya.

The second one is the scabbard of another kris that actually fits perfectly. It fits this blade much better than the one it came with. Since it's also a Sulu type, I kind of like it together. What do you think?

I hope to have the metal on the hilt tested soon and I'll let you know as soon as I have an update on that.

Thank you.

Fernando

CharlesS · 30th March 2018, 11:50 PM

Lovely kriss!

The holes along the spine of the pommel and they nearly straight line of dark patina there make we wonder if there was a silver or suassa band across the top.

Battara, your thoughts?

30th March 2018, 11:17 AM	#5
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Here are some close ups of the blade. Attached Images

30th March 2018, 11:29 AM	#6
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Hi Battara, Below are pictures of the scabbard. The first one is the one it came with. I think it's a Sulu type. The mouth of the scabbard is slightly wider than the width of the gangya. The second one is the scabbard of another kris that actually fits perfectly. It fits this blade much better than the one it came with. Since it's also a Sulu type, I kind of like it together. What do you think? I hope to have the metal on the hilt tested soon and I'll let you know as soon as I have an update on that. Thank you. Fernando Attached Images

30th March 2018, 11:50 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Lovely kriss! The holes along the spine of the pommel and they nearly straight line of dark patina there make we wonder if there was a silver or suassa band across the top. Battara, your thoughts? Last edited by CharlesS; 31st March 2018 at 02:05 PM.

29th March 2018, 03:53 PM	#1
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Hi Kronckew, I'll post some close-ups of the blade for you tomorrow. Thanks for your insights. Fernando

29th March 2018, 04:23 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,142	What a nice piece! Actually I would say that the blade is Maguindanao, while the hilt is Maranao or made by a Maranao craftsman (based on the Maranao okir). This is not unheard of since these tribal areas were next to each other. Also it looks like the surface of the orange bands of the hilt are made of suassa. Is there a scabbard?

29th March 2018, 07:41 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,142	Oh I see...........well it might not be suassa then, but a silver/copper mix to look like suassa. It will take testing by a jeweler to be sure which one. Please post the scabbard so I can better determine if Sulu or what. Crossovers are not unheard of........