Is this from Borneo?

fernando · 10th January 2009, 10:12 PM

Lousy pictures, i know .. i am not at home; just bought the thing

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What would the specialized forumites say about this ?
... origin veracity, name of piece, aproximate age ... you know, that type of things.
Thanks in advance
Fernando

Rick · 10th January 2009, 10:48 PM

Hi Fernando, I think this is an Indonesian spearhead; it looks like the collar at the base (metuk) may be a separate piece .

As for cultural signifigance mounted as it is ...

fernando · 11th January 2009, 01:22 AM

Thanks Rick,
You mean this piece is not a 'classic' style? not an usualy seen specimen?
Meerly a tombak mounted in an atypical way?
Horn and teeth would be the materials used ... or would the 'teeth' be worked up bone?
A weapon to be carried over the shoulder, so it seems ...
Looks some old, doesn't it ?
Any more coments ... Gentlemen ?
Fernando

Rick · 11th January 2009, 01:44 AM

Hi Fernando
You will see keris made up this way with the knotwork, teeth and painting also .

Unfortunately I have no knowledge of whether these items are culturally signifigant or not .

However I would ask this; it is a spearhead, does form follow function ?

katana · 11th January 2009, 02:05 AM

Hi Fernando and Happy New Year

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I think Rick might be refering to something like this...

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=mandau+teeth

I am intrigued with the 'bend' in the shaft and its possible function ..... even if this is a 'tourist' piece...surely it would be based on a 'local' form

The spearhead looks good....but I must admit that it is a personal view.....I have very limited knowledge of SEA weapons

....but they are fascinating

Kind Regards David

Dajak · 11th January 2009, 05:43 AM

Hi Fernando this is for sure put together in Borneo but has nothing to do with the dayaks .

Many tourist piece's are like it they have krissen,mandau's and parangs like this .

This one could be made in the 50/60/70

Ben

10th January 2009, 10:12 PM	#1
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Is this from Borneo? Lousy pictures, i know .. i am not at home; just bought the thing . What would the specialized forumites say about this ? ... origin veracity, name of piece, aproximate age ... you know, that type of things. Thanks in advance Fernando Attached Images

10th January 2009, 10:48 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Hi Fernando, I think this is an Indonesian spearhead; it looks like the collar at the base (metuk) may be a separate piece . As for cultural signifigance mounted as it is ...

11th January 2009, 01:22 AM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Thanks Rick, You mean this piece is not a 'classic' style? not an usualy seen specimen? Meerly a tombak mounted in an atypical way? Horn and teeth would be the materials used ... or would the 'teeth' be worked up bone? A weapon to be carried over the shoulder, so it seems ... Looks some old, doesn't it ? Any more coments ... Gentlemen ? Fernando

11th January 2009, 01:44 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Hi Fernando You will see keris made up this way with the knotwork, teeth and painting also . Unfortunately I have no knowledge of whether these items are culturally signifigant or not . However I would ask this; it is a spearhead, does form follow function ?

11th January 2009, 02:05 AM	#5
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi Fernando and Happy New Year , I think Rick might be refering to something like this... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=mandau+teeth I am intrigued with the 'bend' in the shaft and its possible function ..... even if this is a 'tourist' piece...surely it would be based on a 'local' form The spearhead looks good....but I must admit that it is a personal view.....I have very limited knowledge of SEA weapons ....but they are fascinating Kind Regards David

11th January 2009, 05:43 AM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Fernando this is for sure put together in Borneo but has nothing to do with the dayaks . Many tourist piece's are like it they have krissen,mandau's and parangs like this . This one could be made in the 50/60/70 Ben