Italian Storta

Victrix · 30th January 2023, 12:26 PM

My Christmas present arrived late this year due to slow post service. It’s an Italian Storta (presumably Venetian Republic) from the end 16thC/beginning 17thC. The wooden grip is bound with rope covered with leather. It has a downward curved cross guard, from which a shell guard protrudes, and a curved knuckle guard. The flat octagonal pommel has a central boss and looks typical Venetian/Hungarian style. The single-edged blade is gently curved with a shallow fuller in its centre on both sides. The blade has three thicknesses with a slight recess after the first quarter and a 19cm false edge toward the tip. The blade is decorated with lines and moons and stars at the top and at the bottom. There’s a smith’s mark stamped on one side within three stars on either side. The overall length is 83.5cm (hilt 13.5cm and blade 70cm) and weight is 0.8Kg. The sword feels very sturdy in hand and handles well. Ideal for use in cramped conditions on a ship or galley.

Victrix · 30th January 2023, 12:37 PM

I found a storta with an identical hilt in “Ubojite Ostrice” (Gornja Stubica 2003) by Mario Kovac. This sword is described as an Italian Storta dated to late 16thC. It seems shorter with overall length stated at 76cm.

The author mentions that Stortas are Italian short sabres with wide blades and chunky appearance which were widespread in use 16-17thC in Italy mostly of Venetian provenance. It was a weapon for combat at close range, especially useful during boarding from one ship to another with constrained space. The swords are usually robust and minimum elegance. The swords were probably also used by city guards in areas controlled by the Venetian Republic. Stortas differ from falchions in that the former have a false edge near the tip. (this is based on translation using Google)

fernando · 30th January 2023, 01:15 PM

Very nice example. No idea what the name stamped on the blade is ?

Victrix · 30th January 2023, 01:27 PM

I scratched my head to understand the meaning of the smith’s mark stamped on one side of the blade. It dawned on me that blade smiths in 16thC often had poor literacy. It seems to me that the letters are in reverse order (read from right to left) and the letter S has mistakenly been confused with the letter G (quite similar but with the lower loop closed). The text between the stars on the smith’s mark then reads G E N D O V A or GENOA in today’s standardised spelling.

In “Fringia Die endlose Geschichte einer Klingeninschrift” by Friedrich Jäger (2013) he mentions multiple Genoa marks spelled as GENOVA, GENEVA, GENEVE, etc.

fernando · 30th January 2023, 01:50 PM

Great

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Interested Party · 30th January 2023, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Victrix

The author mentions that Stortas are Italian short sabres with wide blades and chunky appearance which were widespread in use 16-17thC in Italy mostly of Venetian provenance...... Stortas differ from falchions in that the former have a false edge near the tip. (this is based on translation using Google)

My understanding is that falchions are very sharp with a thin cross section at the edge to be able to slice through gaberdine. Is this the case with Stortas as well?

fernando · 30th January 2023, 05:31 PM

I guess Jasper would an ideal person to comment on Victrix's example and stortas in general

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Victrix · 30th January 2023, 06:01 PM

Sword #47 in the picture above is a falchion. The author Mario Kovac writes that in German this sword is called malchus. He writes that the purpose of the swords were different so they are built differently. He says the main distinguishing feature of the Storta is that this single bladed sword loses its spine near the tip where it forms a false edge like a sabre. The falchion is also single bladed but has a clipped tip. In “A Guide to the Arms and Armour Collection in Cesta Castle, San Marino” (1969) G. Giorgetti allegedly claims falchions were typical weapons of the guard of the Holy Inquisition but the author questions this. [I hope I got this right as I used Google Translate]

My sword, which is a Storta, has a fairly thick spine so I think it’s meant for some quite heavy cutting in close combat. The blade is wider than my 17-18thC hussar sabres. What’s interesting with this blade is it’s wider near the hilt for strength with a step decrease after a quarter of its length and then the spine disappears in the final 19cm into a false edge like a sabre.

Jim McDougall · 30th January 2023, 10:28 PM

Italian arms makers and armourers were known for their innovation and styling, and highly influenced arms not only throughout Europe, but in many cultural spheres through trade. It is interesting to see the guard system on this which corresponds to Arab sabres (known as 'nimchas') as well as vestigially in the Sinhalese kastane.
Also as you note the pommel which remarkably resembles those on schiavona with the central boss.

This is an amazing example of the storta, and as noted, it was meant for heavy blows in close quarters,. the marking on the blade too is remarkable. I have always understood that GENOA was often on blades regardless of what city or center had produced it as this was the port where they departed into trade networks.

Excellent example Victrix! and really exciting to see.

Victrix · 31st January 2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Italian arms makers and armourers were known for their innovation and styling, and highly influenced arms not only throughout Europe, but in many cultural spheres through trade. It is interesting to see the guard system on this which corresponds to Arab sabres (known as 'nimchas') as well as vestigially in the Sinhalese kastane.
Also note the pommel which remarkably resembles those on schiavona with the central boss.

This is an amazing example of the storta, and as noted, it was meant for heavy blows in close quarters,. the marking on the blade too is remarkable. I have always understood that GENOA was often on blades regardless of what city or center had produced it as this was the port where they departed into trade networks.

Excellent example Victrix! and really exciting to see.

Thank you for your kind words, Jim.

Interesting to read about the influence of Italian arms in the Middle East and Ceylon. It seems the influence went both ways. I attach a couple more photos of the top end of the blade near the hilt which is decorated on both sides with lines and [full] moons with stars. There’s also what appears to be a shooting star or perhaps it’s a star with a new moon. This looks oriental to my eyes and Venetians did a lot of trade with the Ottomans and so probably got some cultural influences from there in the process. I think the Ottomans and Persians were also big believers in Astrology. The blade is sharp.

Akanthus · 8th August 2023, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Victrix

Sword #47 in the picture above is a falchion. The author Mario Kovac writes that in German this sword is called malchus. He writes that the purpose of the swords were different so they are built differently. He says the main distinguishing feature of the Storta is that this single bladed sword loses its spine near the tip where it forms a false edge like a sabre. The falchion is also single bladed but has a clipped tip. In “A Guide to the Arms and Armour Collection in Cesta Castle, San Marino” (1969) G. Giorgetti allegedly claims falchions were typical weapons of the guard of the Holy Inquisition but the author questions this. [I hope I got this right as I used Google Translate]

My sword, which is a Storta, has a fairly thick spine so I think it’s meant for some quite heavy cutting in close combat. The blade is wider than my 17-18thC hussar sabres. What’s interesting with this blade is it’s wider near the hilt for strength with a step decrease after a quarter of its length and then the spine disappears in the final 19cm into a false edge like a sabre.

Only mentioned in passing : Thr German name "Malchus" for this kind of swords refers on one of the soldiers,who were sent to arrest Jesus Christ in the garden of Getsemani.To defend his lord ,Simon Petrus cuts off the right ear of the soldier Malchus with his sword.Jesus healed the wound .
( Joh.18,10 ; Lk.22,50 )

Victrix · 8th August 2023, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Akanthus

Only mentioned in passing : Thr German name "Malchus" for this kind of swords refers on one of the soldiers,who were sent to arrest Jesus Christ in the garden of Getsemani.To defend his lord ,Simon Petrus cuts off the right ear of the soldier Malchus with his sword.Jesus healed the wound .
( Joh.18,10 ; Lk.22,50 )

Interesting. I remember the story.

30th January 2023, 12:26 PM	#1
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 679	Italian Storta My Christmas present arrived late this year due to slow post service. It’s an Italian Storta (presumably Venetian Republic) from the end 16thC/beginning 17thC. The wooden grip is bound with rope covered with leather. It has a downward curved cross guard, from which a shell guard protrudes, and a curved knuckle guard. The flat octagonal pommel has a central boss and looks typical Venetian/Hungarian style. The single-edged blade is gently curved with a shallow fuller in its centre on both sides. The blade has three thicknesses with a slight recess after the first quarter and a 19cm false edge toward the tip. The blade is decorated with lines and moons and stars at the top and at the bottom. There’s a smith’s mark stamped on one side within three stars on either side. The overall length is 83.5cm (hilt 13.5cm and blade 70cm) and weight is 0.8Kg. The sword feels very sturdy in hand and handles well. Ideal for use in cramped conditions on a ship or galley. Attached Images

30th January 2023, 12:37 PM	#2
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 679	I found a storta with an identical hilt in “Ubojite Ostrice” (Gornja Stubica 2003) by Mario Kovac. This sword is described as an Italian Storta dated to late 16thC. It seems shorter with overall length stated at 76cm. The author mentions that Stortas are Italian short sabres with wide blades and chunky appearance which were widespread in use 16-17thC in Italy mostly of Venetian provenance. It was a weapon for combat at close range, especially useful during boarding from one ship to another with constrained space. The swords are usually robust and minimum elegance. The swords were probably also used by city guards in areas controlled by the Venetian Republic. Stortas differ from falchions in that the former have a false edge near the tip. (this is based on translation using Google) Attached Images Last edited by Victrix; 30th January 2023 at 12:58 PM.

30th January 2023, 06:01 PM	#8
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 679	Sword #47 in the picture above is a falchion. The author Mario Kovac writes that in German this sword is called malchus. He writes that the purpose of the swords were different so they are built differently. He says the main distinguishing feature of the Storta is that this single bladed sword loses its spine near the tip where it forms a false edge like a sabre. The falchion is also single bladed but has a clipped tip. In “A Guide to the Arms and Armour Collection in Cesta Castle, San Marino” (1969) G. Giorgetti allegedly claims falchions were typical weapons of the guard of the Holy Inquisition but the author questions this. [I hope I got this right as I used Google Translate] My sword, which is a Storta, has a fairly thick spine so I think it’s meant for some quite heavy cutting in close combat. The blade is wider than my 17-18thC hussar sabres. What’s interesting with this blade is it’s wider near the hilt for strength with a step decrease after a quarter of its length and then the spine disappears in the final 19cm into a false edge like a sabre. Attached Images

30th January 2023, 10:28 PM	#9
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,747	Italian arms makers and armourers were known for their innovation and styling, and highly influenced arms not only throughout Europe, but in many cultural spheres through trade. It is interesting to see the guard system on this which corresponds to Arab sabres (known as 'nimchas') as well as vestigially in the Sinhalese kastane. Also as you note the pommel which remarkably resembles those on schiavona with the central boss. This is an amazing example of the storta, and as noted, it was meant for heavy blows in close quarters,. the marking on the blade too is remarkable. I have always understood that GENOA was often on blades regardless of what city or center had produced it as this was the port where they departed into trade networks. Excellent example Victrix! and really exciting to see. Last edited by Jim McDougall; 31st January 2023 at 02:23 PM.

30th January 2023, 01:15 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Very nice example. No idea what the name stamped on the blade is ?

30th January 2023, 01:27 PM	#4
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 679	I scratched my head to understand the meaning of the smith’s mark stamped on one side of the blade. It dawned on me that blade smiths in 16thC often had poor literacy. It seems to me that the letters are in reverse order (read from right to left) and the letter S has mistakenly been confused with the letter G (quite similar but with the lower loop closed). The text between the stars on the smith’s mark then reads G E N D O V A or GENOA in today’s standardised spelling. In “Fringia Die endlose Geschichte einer Klingeninschrift” by Friedrich Jäger (2013) he mentions multiple Genoa marks spelled as GENOVA, GENEVA, GENEVE, etc. Attached Images

30th January 2023, 01:50 PM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Great .

30th January 2023, 05:31 PM	#7
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	I guess Jasper would an ideal person to comment on Victrix's example and stortas in general .