Khanjar on eBay

Spunjer · 7th December 2004, 11:23 AM

i've been watching this for awhile. i almost bid on it but wasn't quite sure if it's the 'tourist' type or not. i thought it was pretty, tho...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

comments?

Yannis · 7th December 2004, 12:42 PM

In my opinion it is a new indian made knife. But it has some quality that usual "tourist" pieces dont have.

Nice use of silver, well made koftgari. But the damascus looks etched, not real.

ariel · 7th December 2004, 02:43 PM

I am certain it is new. Personally, I would not touch it: I have a principled objection to the replicas.
If one needs a working blade , one should get a practical modern one. It can be done in a manner of a traditional sword if one wants to learn specific techniques, do martial arts etc.
If one collects, one should get an authentically-old one: the history aspect is paramount and, of course, one would not use it for cutting practice.
Yeah, yeah, I 've heard the arguments of preserving the tradition, maintaining old techniques etc. That's fine with me as long as these objects are clearly marked as contemporary and decorative . Sadly, this is not done in the majority of cases to confuse the prospective buyer into thinking that he is getting a real 18th century deal. Even with this proviso, I would do my best not to get contemporary imitations, no matter how pretty they are: they have no history behind them and leave me cold.

Rivkin · 7th December 2004, 03:27 PM

I totally agree with you on this, _but_:

what about modern masters working in old traditions ? should kubachi and circassians stop making kindjals because sometimes they get sold as "early XIX century" ones ?

7th December 2004, 11:23 AM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Khanjar on eBay i've been watching this for awhile. i almost bid on it but wasn't quite sure if it's the 'tourist' type or not. i thought it was pretty, tho... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT comments?

7th December 2004, 12:42 PM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	In my opinion it is a new indian made knife. But it has some quality that usual "tourist" pieces dont have. Nice use of silver, well made koftgari. But the damascus looks etched, not real.

7th December 2004, 02:43 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I am certain it is new. Personally, I would not touch it: I have a principled objection to the replicas. If one needs a working blade , one should get a practical modern one. It can be done in a manner of a traditional sword if one wants to learn specific techniques, do martial arts etc. If one collects, one should get an authentically-old one: the history aspect is paramount and, of course, one would not use it for cutting practice. Yeah, yeah, I 've heard the arguments of preserving the tradition, maintaining old techniques etc. That's fine with me as long as these objects are clearly marked as contemporary and decorative . Sadly, this is not done in the majority of cases to confuse the prospective buyer into thinking that he is getting a real 18th century deal. Even with this proviso, I would do my best not to get contemporary imitations, no matter how pretty they are: they have no history behind them and leave me cold.

7th December 2004, 03:27 PM	#4
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	I totally agree with you on this, _but_: what about modern masters working in old traditions ? should kubachi and circassians stop making kindjals because sometimes they get sold as "early XIX century" ones ?