Celebes keris?

Harley · 12th January 2012, 01:31 PM

Hello guys,

This is what i thought was a Celebes keris, but going true the old topic's, i got my doubts, the blades that i have seen don't look like this one.
I also have read that these blades don't get a warangan treatment, so i must clean the blade, (he's already a little rusty), if it is from Celebes.
The blade without the pesi is 34 cm, and the pesi is short and bent.
Sorry for the blurry pictures, but it was raining.

regards,
Ben

danny1976 · 12th January 2012, 09:49 PM

Hallo Ben ,

IMHO this is a Javanese blade that you have there.
how is the fitting of the blade in the waranka mouth ?

It happens more to see Javanese blades in a bugis sheath , maybe it is already a long time like this , because maybe a Javanese moved to Sumatra and had his ''pusaka'' blade dressed in a ''local'' dress ??

It is just a idea , i dont know

regards ,

Danny

Harley · 12th January 2012, 10:09 PM

Hoi Danny,

I must agree that i am not so sure anymore that it is from Celebes.
The blade fits perfect in the mouth, but it misses the style of a Bugis blade, so it could be it's a redressed Javanese blade.
I had bought this keris 15/20 years ago, and assuming that it was Bugis

,
if it is Javanese the only problem is to make the pesi back straight.
Thanks for your opinion Danny.

regards,
Ben

danny1976 · 12th January 2012, 10:37 PM

Hi Ben,

About the straiten the peksi , If it was mine I would put it in a bankschroef .
if you do that easy it will do no harm.

regards,

danny

Harley · 12th January 2012, 11:13 PM

Thanks Danny,

I think that is the safest way to do it.

regards,
Ben

Maurice · 13th January 2012, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny1976

If it was mine I would put it in a bankschroef .

Danny, I think it's called a benchscrew...

A. G. Maisey · 13th January 2012, 01:07 AM

I normally just put a bit heat into the tang with a gas torch and hammer the tang flat. No need to get it red hot, just warm it up a bit. It only takes a few light taps to straighten.

Sometimes with tang that's not too thick you can just straighten it cold with your fingers.

12th January 2012, 01:31 PM	#1
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Celebes keris? Hello guys, This is what i thought was a Celebes keris, but going true the old topic's, i got my doubts, the blades that i have seen don't look like this one. I also have read that these blades don't get a warangan treatment, so i must clean the blade, (he's already a little rusty), if it is from Celebes. The blade without the pesi is 34 cm, and the pesi is short and bent. Sorry for the blurry pictures, but it was raining. regards, Ben Attached Images

12th January 2012, 09:49 PM	#2
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 232	Hallo Ben , IMHO this is a Javanese blade that you have there. how is the fitting of the blade in the waranka mouth ? It happens more to see Javanese blades in a bugis sheath , maybe it is already a long time like this , because maybe a Javanese moved to Sumatra and had his ''pusaka'' blade dressed in a ''local'' dress ?? It is just a idea , i dont know regards , Danny

12th January 2012, 10:09 PM	#3
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Hoi Danny, I must agree that i am not so sure anymore that it is from Celebes. The blade fits perfect in the mouth, but it misses the style of a Bugis blade, so it could be it's a redressed Javanese blade. I had bought this keris 15/20 years ago, and assuming that it was Bugis , if it is Javanese the only problem is to make the pesi back straight. Thanks for your opinion Danny. regards, Ben

12th January 2012, 10:37 PM	#4
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 232	Hi Ben, About the straiten the peksi , If it was mine I would put it in a bankschroef . if you do that easy it will do no harm. regards, danny

12th January 2012, 11:13 PM	#5
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Thanks Danny, I think that is the safest way to do it. regards, Ben

13th January 2012, 01:07 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,700	I normally just put a bit heat into the tang with a gas torch and hammer the tang flat. No need to get it red hot, just warm it up a bit. It only takes a few light taps to straighten. Sometimes with tang that's not too thick you can just straighten it cold with your fingers.