Help with Malay Sword I.D.

Gavin Nugent · 31st May 2012, 08:25 AM

Interesting piece, it shows the typical forging pattern seen in many swords from Suawesi.
Those more learned will be able to explain who influenced who with the manufacture of that pattern within the blade.

Gav

Maurice · 31st May 2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Interesting piece, it shows the typical forging pattern seen in many swords from Suawesi.
Those more learned will be able to explain who influenced who with the manufacture of that pattern within the blade.

Gav

Hi Gav,

This wasn't a dayak weapon.
The Banjar klewang was in use by the Malay/Javanese/Sumatran/etc., who were traders around Banjarmasin and the estuary.
A bit further upriver you find the cultivated Moslim converted dayaks (who mixed up with the Malay/Javanese and other people who lived or wandered in the South, trying to earn a living by trading stuff) , and more further upriver the dayaktribes appear.....
The non-dayaks did the forging of this klewang from Banjar.

Maurice

asomotif · 31st May 2012, 12:14 PM

Pfew, I was already hoping that someone would step in and correct this thread.

I already searched for other threads on the forum mentioning this malay/borneo style, but could not find them.

Maurice,
I remember that you have old plate(s) with various banjar weapons, or was that once posted by Arjan ? again, tried the search function yesterday but sometimes there are just too many threads on this forum. maybe we should introduce a separate Borneo forum.

Maurice · 31st May 2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Maurice,
I remember that you have old plate(s) with various banjar weapons, or was that once posted by Arjan ? again, tried the search function yesterday but sometimes there are just too many threads on this forum. maybe we should introduce a separate Borneo forum.

Willem, I think you mean this image from Schwaner.

Maurice · 31st May 2012, 01:38 PM

According Schmeltz it's called a "parang kerekoepang".

Clubs & Arrows · 31st May 2012, 04:50 PM

Maurice, Asmotif, Sajen, Gav,
Thank you very much for the updates about the blade. The pictures certainly helped. Again thanks for the help.

Best regards,
Joe

asomotif · 31st May 2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

According Schmeltz it's called a "parang kerekoepang".

That is the plate I meant. with the parang nabur and all the other malay/borneo weapons.

Thanks !

Best regards,
Willem

31st May 2012, 01:38 PM	#5
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,324	According Schmeltz it's called a "parang kerekoepang". Attached Images

31st May 2012, 08:25 AM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Interesting piece, it shows the typical forging pattern seen in many swords from Suawesi. Those more learned will be able to explain who influenced who with the manufacture of that pattern within the blade. Gav

31st May 2012, 12:14 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	Pfew, I was already hoping that someone would step in and correct this thread. I already searched for other threads on the forum mentioning this malay/borneo style, but could not find them. Maurice, I remember that you have old plate(s) with various banjar weapons, or was that once posted by Arjan ? again, tried the search function yesterday but sometimes there are just too many threads on this forum. maybe we should introduce a separate Borneo forum.

31st May 2012, 04:50 PM	#6
Clubs & Arrows Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Gabriel Foothills, Southern California Posts: 94	Maurice, Asmotif, Sajen, Gav, Thank you very much for the updates about the blade. The pictures certainly helped. Again thanks for the help. Best regards, Joe