Interesting flintlock pistol.

Ivo · 2nd January 2016, 05:01 PM

Hello and Happy New Year to All ,
I think it will be interesting to see this pistol.
High quality manufacturing - in my opinion.
Elements characteristic of the Balkans - but these corals?
Any comments welcome.

Regards,
Ivo

Battara · 2nd January 2016, 11:33 PM

Both the Ottoman Balkans and Algeria used corals like this.

Very nice.

rickystl · 3rd January 2016, 11:25 AM

Hi Ivo.
That is a VERY NICE pistol !!! WOW !!! And in great condition.
I agree with Battara here. It was probably assembled at one of the many gun making centers in the Balkans. I'm going to say it was made for the Algerian market. Not only were the pink corals popular, but the metal wrapped ramrod is one of the hallmarks of Algerian guns. And the decoration on the barrel bands.
The lock looks to be a bit better quality than you normally encounter on these pistols. Which could indiate a European made lock for export, and decorated locally, while assembled with the rest of the gun.
Is the ramrod length approximately the same length as the barrel? Or is it the short variation, what we call a "false" ramrod? Would be interesting to know.
Thanks for posting. That's a super nice pistol.
Rick.

Ivo · 3rd January 2016, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rickystl

Hi Ivo.
That is a VERY NICE pistol !!! WOW !!! And in great condition.
I agree with Battara here. It was probably assembled at one of the many gun making centers in the Balkans. I'm going to say it was made for the Algerian market. Not only were the pink corals popular, but the metal wrapped ramrod is one of the hallmarks of Algerian guns. And the decoration on the barrel bands.
The lock looks to be a bit better quality than you normally encounter on these pistols. Which could indiate a European made lock for export, and decorated locally, while assembled with the rest of the gun.
Is the ramrod length approximately the same length as the barrel? Or is it the short variation, what we call a "false" ramrod? Would be interesting to know.
Thanks for posting. That's a super nice pistol.
Rick.

Hi Rick,
ramrod not a "false"
Regards,
Ivo

Kubur · 3rd January 2016, 06:37 PM

Hi,
I confirm Coral was used for swords, daggers and guns in all Ottoman empire.
This gun is Algerian, the silverwork on the stock is typical from this area.
The coral on the lock is very unusual... very strange...
About the ramrod, i can see what Rick says, there is a missing piece of silver.
Normaly Algerian guns have a functional ramrods, Balkans usually don't (but it's not a rule)...
On your photo it seems that is a movable & functional ramrod, is it?
best,
Kubur

BANDOOK · 5th January 2016, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi,
I confirm Coral was used for swords, daggers and guns in all Ottoman empire.
This gun is Algerian, the silverwork on the stock is typical from this area.
The coral on the lock is very unusual... very strange...
About the ramrod, i can see what Rick says, there is a missing piece of silver.
Normaly Algerian guns have a functional ramrods, Balkans usually don't (but it's not a rule)...
On your photo it seems that is a movable & functional ramrod, is it?
best,
Kubur

GOOD INFORMATION RICK AND KUBUR,THANKS ADDS TO MY KNOWLEDGE,CHEERS
IVO UR LUCKY MAN TO AHVE THESE PISTOLD A WANT IN MY LIST,CONGRATS

rickystl · 9th January 2016, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivo

Hi Rick,
ramrod not a "false"
Regards,
Ivo

Hi Ivo.
Thanks for the additional photo of the ramrod. That seems to confirm things. And I fully agree with Kubur's assesment. This is a good textbook example of an Algerian pistol. Yes, the corals on the lock itself is a bit unusual, but a nice touch. And it appears that none of the corals are missing - which is also unusual LOL. Again, super nice gun.
Rick

Ivo · 9th January 2016, 08:35 PM

Thank you all for your opinion.

Regards,
Ivo

2nd January 2016, 05:01 PM	#1
Ivo Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 38	Interesting flintlock pistol. Hello and Happy New Year to All , I think it will be interesting to see this pistol. High quality manufacturing - in my opinion. Elements characteristic of the Balkans - but these corals? Any comments welcome. Regards, Ivo Attached Images

2nd January 2016, 11:33 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Both the Ottoman Balkans and Algeria used corals like this. Very nice.

3rd January 2016, 11:25 AM	#3
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Hi Ivo. That is a VERY NICE pistol !!! WOW !!! And in great condition. I agree with Battara here. It was probably assembled at one of the many gun making centers in the Balkans. I'm going to say it was made for the Algerian market. Not only were the pink corals popular, but the metal wrapped ramrod is one of the hallmarks of Algerian guns. And the decoration on the barrel bands. The lock looks to be a bit better quality than you normally encounter on these pistols. Which could indiate a European made lock for export, and decorated locally, while assembled with the rest of the gun. Is the ramrod length approximately the same length as the barrel? Or is it the short variation, what we call a "false" ramrod? Would be interesting to know. Thanks for posting. That's a super nice pistol. Rick.

3rd January 2016, 06:37 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi, I confirm Coral was used for swords, daggers and guns in all Ottoman empire. This gun is Algerian, the silverwork on the stock is typical from this area. The coral on the lock is very unusual... very strange... About the ramrod, i can see what Rick says, there is a missing piece of silver. Normaly Algerian guns have a functional ramrods, Balkans usually don't (but it's not a rule)... On your photo it seems that is a movable & functional ramrod, is it? best, Kubur

9th January 2016, 08:35 PM	#8
Ivo Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 38	Thank you all for your opinion. Regards, Ivo