An Indonesian Mystery Knife

CharlesS · 14th October 2008, 05:31 PM

Here is an interesting Indonesian mystery knife whose hilt appears Sumatran(???), but with a strange downturned, diamond-sectioned, blade of about 10 inches.

Any ideas as to a more precise origin, or its use???

Among Indo Persian weapons kards are occasionally found with distinctly downturned blades.

Could both have a korambi, claw-like, use??

VVV · 15th October 2008, 06:27 AM

That's a nice but strange blade.
Maybe it could also be Peninsular Malay?
Do you think the sheath is original?
The blade somehow reminds me of a Jambiya, even if it's longer and more slim.

Michael

fearn · 15th October 2008, 09:16 PM

Something similar just popped up on the Discovery Channel (Fightquest, doing Pencak Silat). Could it be a kuku macan?

F

CharlesS · 15th October 2008, 09:39 PM

I am not familiar with a kuku macan....can you give any references??

Rick · 15th October 2008, 10:45 PM

Valiant's interpretation .
http://www.valiantco.com/sumatra/i-KukuMacan.JPG

fearn · 15th October 2008, 11:02 PM

Thanks Rick.

I'm not familiar with it either. I just looked up from doing paperwork, and there was a martial artist swinging one around. My impression is that the one from Valiant (and the one on the TV show) were single-edged blades, so it's not an exact match. Still, it's a starting place.

F

Rick · 15th October 2008, 11:54 PM

Two edges are better than one ?

VVV · 16th October 2008, 06:26 AM

I think you found it, Fearn.
Here is a "semi-old" Kuku Rimau/Kuku Macan from the Lampung-area as a comparison.
Mine is single-edged and used like a Jambiya/Korambit when fighting.

Michael

CharlesS · 16th October 2008, 12:20 PM

Very interesting ...thanks!

I suppose this just helps confirm that Zonneveld.....or, indeed, VVV could do a Volume 2 on Indonesian weapons.

14th October 2008, 05:31 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	An Indonesian Mystery Knife Here is an interesting Indonesian mystery knife whose hilt appears Sumatran(???), but with a strange downturned, diamond-sectioned, blade of about 10 inches. Any ideas as to a more precise origin, or its use??? Among Indo Persian weapons *kards* are occasionally found with distinctly downturned blades. Could both have a *korambi*, claw-like, use?? Attached Images

16th October 2008, 06:26 AM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I think you found it, Fearn. Here is a "semi-old" Kuku Rimau/Kuku Macan from the Lampung-area as a comparison. Mine is single-edged and used like a Jambiya/Korambit when fighting. Michael Attached Images

15th October 2008, 06:27 AM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	That's a nice but strange blade. Maybe it could also be Peninsular Malay? Do you think the sheath is original? The blade somehow reminds me of a Jambiya, even if it's longer and more slim. Michael

15th October 2008, 09:16 PM	#3
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Something similar just popped up on the Discovery Channel (Fightquest, doing Pencak Silat). Could it be a kuku macan? F

15th October 2008, 09:39 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	I am not familiar with a kuku macan....can you give any references??

15th October 2008, 10:45 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Valiant's interpretation . http://www.valiantco.com/sumatra/i-KukuMacan.JPG

15th October 2008, 11:02 PM	#6
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Thanks Rick. I'm not familiar with it either. I just looked up from doing paperwork, and there was a martial artist swinging one around. My impression is that the one from Valiant (and the one on the TV show) were single-edged blades, so it's not an exact match. Still, it's a starting place. F

15th October 2008, 11:54 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Two edges are better than one ?

16th October 2008, 12:20 PM	#9
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Very interesting ...thanks! I suppose this just helps confirm that Zonneveld.....or, indeed, VVV could do a Volume 2 on Indonesian weapons.