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Old 8th June 2019, 01:22 PM   #1
Via Dixiane
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Default Handgonne or not ?

Hi !

on top of being a collector i do quite a lot of metal detecting in the south of France.

A few days ago i found what i think to be a "handgonne". I found it not far from a ruined tower and a small spanish church in the vicinity of Perpignan in the south of France. The spot is a strategic hilltop in a region where the kingdom of France and the Kingdom of spain fought over centuries.

When i cleaned it, it was packed with remains of black powder. But i can not find a "touch hole".

I read somewhere that some kind of early handgonne had no touch hole and were ignited by the front end of the barrel .

thanks for sharing your knowledge
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Old 8th June 2019, 01:39 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, Via Dixiane .
I have re-uploaded your images using the forum attachment features and moved your thread to the European section, where members should come around to comment on your curious item.
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Old 8th June 2019, 11:54 PM   #3
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Certainly too small for a handgonne, but not too small to be a signal mortar.
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Old 8th June 2019, 11:59 PM   #4
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Does the bottom have any kind of socket, or what remains of such?

Canít edit my prior post... it takes a while to show up.
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Canít edit my prior post... it takes a while to show up.

Be patient Guy. This is why you are not yet a regular member. Due to forum safety (spam) protocol, beginners posts wait in moderating status, before being validated.
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Old 9th June 2019, 02:37 PM   #6
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Via, i confess it is new to me that early gonnes might not have a touch hole.
Still this is a mysterious piece. Can you take a picture of it, but not inclined, you know, featuring its actual front look? and give us its measurements (height, width and bore) ?
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Old 9th June 2019, 02:52 PM   #7
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To me, it looks like a breech from an early breech-loader, but why no touchhole I cannot say, unless it is filled with rust and hidden....

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