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Old 11th September 2016, 04:46 PM   #1
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gentlemen, some pictures from a display of 1600 old weapons out of a collection of 4000 pieces. i had problems with my new camera and messed up most of the pictures, as i found out later in the day. there are many top daggers ,swords and firearms in the vitrines.unfurtunately you have to stay in the group and must take the images in seconds! the collection is from King Carol of Rumania, who build this castle to his taste.( less costly as his friend Ludwig of Bayern) greetings iskender
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Old 12th September 2016, 01:52 AM   #2
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Very interesting displays. The design of 19th Century 'heroic' arrangements of arms and such would be an interesting study in its own right. Because 20th and 21st century curating and collecting values have so many ideological components, it could be a useful marker of how power and ideology have changed.

For instance, I recommend the Bulawayo Museum of Natural History as a great example of 1960s (Space Age) museum design and curation, if you get a chance to go there!

Michael (Matchlock) described how modern German museum curators values were violently against arsenal and production arms, even those of the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries that interst so many of us yet can be so obscured by time. That means his collection and his teaching here in this forum are vitally important in preventing the erasure of this history for the whim of political correctness.
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Old 12th September 2016, 11:30 AM   #3
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Magnificent collection, Iskender.
A place worth visiting.
Thanks for sharing these pictures.
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Old 12th September 2016, 05:11 PM   #4
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Thanks for posting this amazing collection, if you have more please post also.
That S curve in the fifth pic is interesting, I have not seen anything like it.
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Some very rare pieces in there, thanks for posting, Iskender.

ChrisPer makes a very interesting observation vis a vis the historicity of types of presentation.
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Old 13th September 2016, 08:16 PM   #6
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Some very rare pieces in there, thanks for posting, Iskender.

ChrisPer makes a very interesting observation vis a vis the historicity of types of presentation.
My pleasure! lucky for us , that the old kings and nobels liked good arms an armor and collected many outstanding pieces (many copies to).Displays like Windsor Castle or the Armeria Real in Madrid will not disappear in the Cellars like it happens in many european City-Museums! greetings iskender
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Old 13th September 2016, 09:56 PM   #7
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Very interesting displays. The design of 19th Century 'heroic' arrangements of arms and such would be an interesting study in its own right. Because 20th and 21st century curating and collecting values have so many ideological components, it could be a useful marker of how power and ideology have changed.

For instance, I recommend the Bulawayo Museum of Natural History as a great example of 1960s (Space Age) museum design and curation, if you get a chance to go there!

Michael (Matchlock) described how modern German museum curators values were violently against arsenal and production arms, even those of the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries that interst so many of us yet can be so obscured by time. That means his collection and his teaching here in this forum are vitally important in preventing the erasure of this history for the whim of political correctness.


Standing ovation!!!!!!
I wholeheartedly agree . While the highly embellished and artistic weapons often displayed in museums are indisputably beautiful and historically important as they are often well provenanced, they do not typically provide the perspective from the broader rank and file sector.
As noted, so many forms of arms in these categories are sparsely represented and huge gaps in development and common usage are in many cases completely absent from many museums and large collections.

I also salute the recognition of Michaels' work here, which indeed stands as in my opinion some of the most significant research and comprehensive studies of these incredibly rare arms. He was rightfully proud of his lifetime of accomplished study, and we were fortunate to have had him here .

Most fascinating idea for a thread, and definitely worthy of discussion and look into these earlier times of collecting.
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Fot those who are really interested in this Museum in the Castle of Pelez/Romyania, there was a book published in 1973 by Christian Vladescu, Carol König, Dan Popa: Arme in Muzeele din Romania, where great parts of the arms in this castle are shown in coloured and b/w fotos. Text is in Romania language
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