A late 16th century Dussack for comment

Cerjak · 6th November 2016, 06:14 PM

O.L. 93 cm ; blade L. 79 cm; blade width at hilt 2.9 cm
Marks Passau wolf in one side and one stamp on the ricasso in the two sides
Any comment on it would be welcome.
Best
Cerjak

cornelistromp · 6th November 2016, 08:59 PM

the sword is a very early one so around 1560-1570.
a hybrid model between the baskethilted sword and rapier.
beautiful sperical pommel with a design of plaiting, as also occurred in different guard finals in the middle of the 16th century.
probably the original grip.

one side note:
perhaps the blade is not the original one, because there is some space between the finger guard and the ricasso. but it is an early blade which originates from the third quarter of the 16th century.

very beautiful weapon, congratulations!

Jim McDougall · 6th November 2016, 11:20 PM

As Jasper notes, blade may not be original, though still of period. Most of these 'dusagge' in variations were indeed apparently the inspiration or compelling force in the development of the Scottish basket hilt.
Interestingly these often gained the term 'Sinclair sabre' as they were typically with heavy sabre blades, the term a misnomer from an unfortunate event in Norway where a Scottish unit was decimated

The chiseled 'running wolf' is regarded as the distinctive mark of blades from Passau, and the single stamped mark opposite is the 'mill rind' or 'twig' mark often heavily employed in North Italian blade centers. These regions are fairly close in proximity so traffic of blades between them does not seem unlikely.

Very nice example,now to look more toward the interesting motif in pommel and guard plate.

cornelistromp · 15th November 2016, 08:49 AM

similar hilt type in Dutch army Museum.
Attachement JP PUYPE van maurits naar munster.

Cerjak · 15th November 2016, 09:58 AM

Great Jasper!
Thank you very much for your research

Cerjak · 22nd November 2016, 10:33 AM

a similar hilt

Cerjak · 30th March 2022, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerjak

O.L. 93 cm ; blade L. 79 cm; blade width at hilt 2.9 cm
Marks Passau wolf in one side and one stamp on the ricasso in the two sides
Any comment on it would be welcome.
Best
Cerjak

the provenance : A ULLMAAN 1891 MUNICH

6th November 2016, 06:14 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	A late 16th century Dussack for comment O.L. 93 cm ; blade L. 79 cm; blade width at hilt 2.9 cm Marks Passau wolf in one side and one stamp on the ricasso in the two sides Any comment on it would be welcome. Best Cerjak Attached Images

15th November 2016, 08:49 AM	#4
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,057	similar hilt type in Dutch army Museum. Attachement JP PUYPE van maurits naar munster. Attached Images

22nd November 2016, 10:33 AM	#6
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	a similar hilt a similar hilt Attached Images

6th November 2016, 08:59 PM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,057	the sword is a very early one so around 1560-1570. a hybrid model between the baskethilted sword and rapier. beautiful sperical pommel with a design of plaiting, as also occurred in different guard finals in the middle of the 16th century. probably the original grip. one side note: perhaps the blade is not the original one, because there is some space between the finger guard and the ricasso. but it is an early blade which originates from the third quarter of the 16th century. very beautiful weapon, congratulations!

6th November 2016, 11:20 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,738	As Jasper notes, blade may not be original, though still of period. Most of these 'dusagge' in variations were indeed apparently the inspiration or compelling force in the development of the Scottish basket hilt. Interestingly these often gained the term 'Sinclair sabre' as they were typically with heavy sabre blades, the term a misnomer from an unfortunate event in Norway where a Scottish unit was decimated The chiseled 'running wolf' is regarded as the distinctive mark of blades from Passau, and the single stamped mark opposite is the 'mill rind' or 'twig' mark often heavily employed in North Italian blade centers. These regions are fairly close in proximity so traffic of blades between them does not seem unlikely. Very nice example,now to look more toward the interesting motif in pommel and guard plate.

15th November 2016, 09:58 AM	#5
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	Great Jasper! Thank you very much for your research