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Old 3rd October 2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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Hello! What weapons used by aceh warriors in XIX - XX centuries?
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Old 3rd October 2013, 03:43 PM   #2
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Hi KraVseR,

I think if you will use the Search icon above and use just the word "Aceh" you will get a good number of old threads regarding Aceh edged weapons.
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OK, and what about firearms?
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Old 3rd October 2013, 09:09 PM   #4
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Hello Kravser,

Indeed, using the search mode on "Aceh "and/or "Atjeh" will give you a lot to see and read.

Please also check out the dutch website of our own forumite "JONNO" ;

http://www.atchin.nl/Atchin/Atjeh_wa...eh_wapens.html

And just for the fun I am adding pictures of :
1. A happy bunch of armed warriors from Aceh, and
2. A display of weapons used in the Ache war from our former army museum in Delft.

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Old 3rd October 2013, 09:56 PM   #5
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some interesting comments on aceh weapons then and now by a local HERE

last post includes a link to a slideshow of aceh weapons and smiths.
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some interesting comments on aceh weapons then and now by a local HERE

last post includes a link to a slideshow of aceh weapons and smiths.
Thanks all.
When I click on image in last post, I see "This album is Password-Protected.".
And could you share photos of Acehnese warriors? Here are depicted they?
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Old 4th October 2013, 12:16 PM   #7
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And what weapons used by the Acehnese warriors in XV - XIX centuries? The same? Maybe they had something turkish?
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Thanks all.
When I click on image in last post, I see "This album is Password-Protected.".
And could you share photos of Acehnese warriors? Here are depicted they?
should be OK now....
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Thanks all.
When I click on image in last post, I see "This album is Password-Protected.".
And could you share photos of Acehnese warriors? Here are depicted they?
These are warriors from the Gayo district!
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should be OK now....
No...
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Old 5th October 2013, 07:05 PM   #11
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Another question: can fighters of Free Aceh Movement use the renchong and other aceh weapons?
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Old 5th October 2013, 07:46 PM   #12
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How is called the Aceh sword? Peudeung or pedang?
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Old 5th October 2013, 10:43 PM   #13
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Gentleman, might i make the suggestion that instead of referring to slide shows on PhotoBucket or other picture hosting servers that we make a concerted effort to post images on these pages. I realize this isn't as easy as simply providing a link, but a week, a month, a year or more down the line when your slide show is no longer on that server your link will be useless and any discussion that was generated around it will be meaningless to our members who have searched our archives for this thread for further info. Our hope is to build an archive of images for such further research. Your cooperation in that effort is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Here, here, David!
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OK. (i set the album to public, but here are the photos may be some duplicates from slideshow)
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Thanks for the photos.
The questions remain open.
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How is called the Aceh sword? Peudeung or pedang?
Peudeung, or also peudeueng is the curved sword with the baskethilt.
Try the search function on this one.
Several high end examples have been posted or discussed in the past.
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I just love all that gold work!
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Great old photos, which I love. Also amazing pieces presented.
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Old 8th October 2013, 02:36 PM   #23
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Thank you. And what about Free Aceh Movement? Could they use this cold weapon?
Can you help with the transcription of the word "Peudeung"? [pedeng]?
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Thank you. And what about Free Aceh Movement? Could they use this cold weapon?
Can you help with the transcription of the word "Peudeung"? [pedeng]?
1.: Free Aceh Movement. I guess they will use automatic assault rifles...

2. try google, I easily found this translation.

" In a correspondence with Dominique Buttin, he informed the that, "The name Peudeung means sword, which is the same meaning as Podang from the Batak or Pedang from the Javanese. "
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1.: Free Aceh Movement. I guess they will use automatic assault rifles...

2. try google, I easily found this translation.

" In a correspondence with Dominique Buttin, he informed the that, "The name Peudeung means sword, which is the same meaning as Podang from the Batak or Pedang from the Javanese. "
Yes, guns - it's obvious. But apart from that they also have some cold weapons?

I'm sorry, I can not find anything. Can be pronounced, and "pedang" and "podang", and "pedeng", right?
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the word in western letters is an approximation of the local pronunciation, thus the multiple spellings for essentially the same word spoken in different local dialects by the native users. transliteration of words into characters not designed for the original language results in a lot of variations which are essentially the same. english speakers hear 'pedang' while a dutch speaker may hear 'peudeung' and the native speaker may not recognise either, even if he knows english or dutch...

even english has vowel drift from england to australia, india, australia, nz, etc.. with a's drifting to e's or i's over time. we understand aussies but their vowels come out funny. pronunciation in england can vary in two places just a few miles apart. it's a wonder anyone understands anyone else.
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I put this together years ago with the help of those here and it may be of some use in this discussion


http://home.comcast.net/~JTCrosby/Th...n07_update.pdf
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I put this together years ago with the help of those here and it may be of some use in this discussion


http://home.comcast.net/~JTCrosby/Th...n07_update.pdf
Thank you, I've found this file.
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Old 12th October 2013, 06:08 PM   #30
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that reminded me of the other edged weapon used in aceh - by the dutch - their traditional european blades proved too long and cumbersome for the rain forests, so the general designed a shorter cutlass to equip his men with. originally made in solingen, they were made all the way up to ww2 in hembrug and the USA (milsco) copied them exactly. known as the dutch klewang: {mine attached} also discussed ad nauseum here in various threads
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