American Sponton

junker · 1st April 2013, 05:39 PM

Hi,
also this one came to me. It is one of a pair.

It is near at Newmans american spontoon no 88PA but mine has a rim at the shoulder (like 73PA).
It is marked with OK.
Will this be the initials of the makers name or like the Internet tells you "oll korrect" or "Order Known"

Is it american orign ? French ? I bought it in Germany.
Maybe a centenar production of the middle 1900 ?
Or realy middle of the 1800 ?

What do you think

best
Dirk

junker · 18th April 2013, 08:44 PM

no guess anyone ??
I dont know either

all the best
Dirk

M ELEY · 19th April 2013, 01:59 AM

If I had to guess, I'd wager American. It's of the plainer form seen in Neumann's and Moore's. Likewise, the lettering isn't fancy script, nor identifying of any regiment or regent. I'm assuming the 'OK' might be a maker's mark. Of course, you might be correct with the Germanic stamp of passed inspection. It is a great piece! Good find!

fernando · 19th April 2013, 12:13 PM

The lettering ordered by the owner ... allusive to combat efficiency ?

junker · 20th April 2013, 08:50 AM

Hello,
Thanks for your guesses.

Found out that a third one without the marks came along in another auction in Germany.
It was described as 16/17 century lance head.
But we know this couldn`t be at all.

Wonder why there are three of a kind in such little time.

best wishes
Dirk

M ELEY · 20th April 2013, 10:37 AM

Hmmm. It seems to be the real deal, if that is what you mean as far as others popping up at the same time. I still say Amer or German spontoon, ca late 18th/early 19th. Spontoons were more ceremonial, so they lasted into the early 1800's. Langets look right, as does the pole. Hard to say without holding the piece, though-

They don't appear to be any of the knock-offs out there.

1st April 2013, 05:39 PM	#1
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	American Sponton Hi, also this one came to me. It is one of a pair. It is near at Newmans american spontoon no 88PA but mine has a rim at the shoulder (like 73PA). It is marked with OK. Will this be the initials of the makers name or like the Internet tells you "oll korrect" or "Order Known" Is it american orign ? French ? I bought it in Germany. Maybe a centenar production of the middle 1900 ? Or realy middle of the 1800 ? What do you think best Dirk Attached Images

18th April 2013, 08:44 PM	#2
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	no guess anyone ?? I dont know either all the best Dirk

19th April 2013, 01:59 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,066	If I had to guess, I'd wager American. It's of the plainer form seen in Neumann's and Moore's. Likewise, the lettering isn't fancy script, nor identifying of any regiment or regent. I'm assuming the 'OK' might be a maker's mark. Of course, you might be correct with the Germanic stamp of passed inspection. It is a great piece! Good find!

19th April 2013, 12:13 PM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	The lettering ordered by the owner ... allusive to combat efficiency ?

20th April 2013, 08:50 AM	#5
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	Hello, Thanks for your guesses. Found out that a third one without the marks came along in another auction in Germany. It was described as 16/17 century lance head. But we know this couldn`t be at all. Wonder why there are three of a kind in such little time. best wishes Dirk

20th April 2013, 10:37 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,066	Hmmm. It seems to be the real deal, if that is what you mean as far as others popping up at the same time. I still say Amer or German spontoon, ca late 18th/early 19th. Spontoons were more ceremonial, so they lasted into the early 1800's. Langets look right, as does the pole. Hard to say without holding the piece, though- They don't appear to be any of the knock-offs out there.