First Talibon?

scratch · 23rd March 2008, 12:32 PM

G'day,
I thought this may be of WWII vintage? or maybe earlier?
Blade:17 1/2 in
Handle: 6 3/8 in
Spine: 7 mm then gradual distal taper to tip.
It seems quite decently made to me.

Cheers

Dan

scratch · 23rd March 2008, 02:39 PM

These marks look like stamps, spring stamps?

Henk · 23rd March 2008, 03:27 PM

Daniel,

It's not my field but it looks to me as a nice talibon. Like Kai said in the thread of the Barong to etch it, I would think to do it with this one too. This blade could also be laminated.

I'm sure the more knowledgeable members will jump in.

ariel · 24th March 2008, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henk

Daniel,

It's not my field but it looks to me as a nice talibon. Like Kai said in the thread of the Barong to etch it, I would think to do it with this one too. This blade could also be laminated.

I'm sure the more knowledgeable members will jump in.

I am not pretending to have any knowledge of these weapons, but it seems to me that the barely visible markings look European. Old re-formed blade?
If this is the case, would you still expect it to be laminated?

scratch · 24th March 2008, 01:06 AM

To be clear,
I have lemon etched both pieces. Sorry, I thought this was visible.
Thanks for all thoughts on both pieces so far. I look forward to learning more.

Cheers

Dan

Henk · 24th March 2008, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I am not pretending to have any knowledge of these weapons, but it seems to me that the barely visible markings look European. Old re-formed blade?
If this is the case, would you still expect it to be laminated?

Ariel,

I don't think so if the blade is European. I thought to see something on one of the pictures. But as I said, this is not my field.

Battara · 25th March 2008, 01:22 AM

I would be surprised if it were laminiated - this looks like it is spring mono-steel. Nice hilt carving for WWII - I do agree that it is probably WWII. Even if it were older, not all talibon were laminated.

scratch · 28th March 2008, 12:04 AM

Gentlemen,
Thank you for your interest

Battara, Thanks for the ID. I am happy to hear it is a genuine WWII piece. I certainly hpoe to acquire some more examples from the Philippines. I like the diversity.

Best regards,

Daniel

Battara · 28th March 2008, 06:38 PM

You are very welcome. That is one reason I like Philippine stuff - the diversity (and the fact that I am part Filipino

).

KuKulzA28 · 12th May 2009, 12:03 PM

ARGH! Lost on this one. Congrats if anyone here got it!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330328410970

...it's lefty too!

VANDOO · 12th May 2009, 04:50 PM

BEFORE AND DURING WW2 THE SWORD MAKERS FOUND A VERY CONVIENENT SOURCE FOR STEEL IT WAS THE LEAF SPRINGS OFF TRUCKS. BEFORE WAR BROKE OUT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET AS IT WAS STILL ON THE VEHICLE WHICH WAS IN USE AND OFTEN UNDER GAURD AS SPRINGS HAD A WAY OF GOING MISSING IF A VEHICLE WAS LEFT UNATTENDED LONG.

IT BECAME MUCH EASIER TO GET SPRINGS WHEN THE WAR WAS ON AS THERE WERE MANY DESTROYED VEHICLES AROUND INCLUDING AIRCRAFT AS WELL AS GROUND TRANSPORT.
YOUR EXAMPLE HAS A WELL CARVED HANDLE AND SCABBARD SO WAS PROBABLY MADE BY SOME PROFESSIONAL IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKEING THEM. SOMETIMES YOU SEE A NICELY CARVED SCABBARD AND A CRUDE HANDLE WHICH USUALLY INDICATES THE ORIGINAL HANDLE WAS DAMMAGED AND REPLACED BY THE OWNER. OTHER EXAMPLES WILL HAVE CRUDE HANDLES AND SCABBARDS WHICH COULD BE BECAUSE THEY WERE A CHEAPER MODEL PERHAPS THEY BOUGHT THE BLADE ONLY AND MADE THEIR OWN HANDLE AND SCABBARD OR PERHAPS THE ORIGINALS HAVE BEEN REPLACED IN THE LIFE OF THE TOOL/ WEAPON.
CONGRADULATIONS A GOOD FIRST TALBION

David · 12th May 2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuKulzA28

ARGH! Lost on this one. Congrats if anyone here got it!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330328410970

...it's lefty too!

ummm....i believe that is the same blade that started this thread so it looks like it was Scratch that bet you out.

Emanuel · 12th May 2009, 07:33 PM

I was thinking of betting on this one. It looks quite nice.

David, check the date

I'm guessing Scratch is the one that sold it.

Cheers,
Emanuel

KuKulzA28 · 12th May 2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

ummm....i believe that is the same blade that started this thread so it looks like it was Scratch that bet you out.

No I revived this old thread, because I noticed that this very Talibon that was displayed here, was just on eBay, just look at the dates... this post was started on the 23rd of March in 2008, and the eBay bidding ended today on May 12, 2009 - more than a year later

sorry if i caused any confusion

23rd March 2008, 12:32 PM	#1
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	First Talibon? G'day, I thought this may be of WWII vintage? or maybe earlier? Blade:17 1/2 in Handle: 6 3/8 in Spine: 7 mm then gradual distal taper to tip. It seems quite decently made to me. Cheers Dan Attached Images

23rd March 2008, 02:39 PM	#2
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Added Photos These marks look like stamps, spring stamps? Attached Images

23rd March 2008, 03:27 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Daniel, It's not my field but it looks to me as a nice talibon. Like Kai said in the thread of the Barong to etch it, I would think to do it with this one too. This blade could also be laminated. I'm sure the more knowledgeable members will jump in.

24th March 2008, 01:06 AM	#5
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	To be clear, I have lemon etched both pieces. Sorry, I thought this was visible. Thanks for all thoughts on both pieces so far. I look forward to learning more. Cheers Dan

25th March 2008, 01:22 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I would be surprised if it were laminiated - this looks like it is spring mono-steel. Nice hilt carving for WWII - I do agree that it is probably WWII. Even if it were older, not all talibon were laminated.

28th March 2008, 12:04 AM	#8
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Gentlemen, Thank you for your interest Battara, Thanks for the ID. I am happy to hear it is a genuine WWII piece. I certainly hpoe to acquire some more examples from the Philippines. I like the diversity. Best regards, Daniel

28th March 2008, 06:38 PM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	You are very welcome. That is one reason I like Philippine stuff - the diversity (and the fact that I am part Filipino ).

12th May 2009, 12:03 PM	#10
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	ARGH! Lost on this one. Congrats if anyone here got it! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330328410970 ...it's lefty too!

12th May 2009, 04:50 PM	#11
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	BEFORE AND DURING WW2 THE SWORD MAKERS FOUND A VERY CONVIENENT SOURCE FOR STEEL IT WAS THE LEAF SPRINGS OFF TRUCKS. BEFORE WAR BROKE OUT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET AS IT WAS STILL ON THE VEHICLE WHICH WAS IN USE AND OFTEN UNDER GAURD AS SPRINGS HAD A WAY OF GOING MISSING IF A VEHICLE WAS LEFT UNATTENDED LONG. IT BECAME MUCH EASIER TO GET SPRINGS WHEN THE WAR WAS ON AS THERE WERE MANY DESTROYED VEHICLES AROUND INCLUDING AIRCRAFT AS WELL AS GROUND TRANSPORT. YOUR EXAMPLE HAS A WELL CARVED HANDLE AND SCABBARD SO WAS PROBABLY MADE BY SOME PROFESSIONAL IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKEING THEM. SOMETIMES YOU SEE A NICELY CARVED SCABBARD AND A CRUDE HANDLE WHICH USUALLY INDICATES THE ORIGINAL HANDLE WAS DAMMAGED AND REPLACED BY THE OWNER. OTHER EXAMPLES WILL HAVE CRUDE HANDLES AND SCABBARDS WHICH COULD BE BECAUSE THEY WERE A CHEAPER MODEL PERHAPS THEY BOUGHT THE BLADE ONLY AND MADE THEIR OWN HANDLE AND SCABBARD OR PERHAPS THE ORIGINALS HAVE BEEN REPLACED IN THE LIFE OF THE TOOL/ WEAPON. CONGRADULATIONS A GOOD FIRST TALBION

12th May 2009, 07:33 PM	#13
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	I was thinking of betting on this one. It looks quite nice. David, check the date I'm guessing Scratch is the one that sold it. Cheers, Emanuel