Any ideas what the dapur is?

mteuthof · 14th August 2022, 05:36 PM

Hello all, I recently acquired this keris but I can't find what dapur it is. Any ideas?

A. G. Maisey · 14th August 2022, 09:28 PM

If it did not have luk, what might it be?

jagabuwana · 15th August 2022, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

If it did not have luk, what might it be?

Without luk, I'd say dhapur brojol.

A. G. Maisey · 15th August 2022, 05:02 AM

Gandhik?

jagabuwana · 15th August 2022, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Gandhik?

Hm yeah I didn't pay enough attention to this.
Looking at it again, I am not sure if you are prompting the question because an opinion of "brojol" doesn't hold water based on something to do with the gandhik of this keris such as

its gandhik is long
there is no gandhik

I'm leaning towards the former due to the differences in angles marked with red, and the gandhik marked with yellow.

If I'm to refer to the Keraton Surakarta pakem as published by Yayasan Damartaji, I don't know what dhapur this keris would be if it didn't have luk. If this keris can be said to have no gandhik then intuitively and perhaps wrongly I would say dhapur sepang.

A. G. Maisey · 15th August 2022, 06:30 AM

Any keris with a longish gandhik has either "kebo" or "mahisa" (maesa) as a part of the name, both words (there are spelling variations) mean "kerbau", "water buffalo", just different language levels.

Have a look at drawing #4 in the pakem.

Incidentally, although this book is probably the best guide we have, there is not universal agreement on everything between its covers.

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A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,700	Any keris with a longish gandhik has either "kebo" or "mahisa" (maesa) as a part of the name, both words (there are spelling variations) mean "kerbau", "water buffalo", just different language levels. Have a look at drawing #4 in the pakem. Incidentally, although this book is probably the best guide we have, there is not universal agreement on everything between its covers.