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Old 5th November 2008, 03:33 PM   #1
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Default Powder flask for ID please

Hello all,

Could you please help me to identyfing powder flask? I have only poor pictures, sorry for that. Powder flask is wooden, with brass rivets, tip of neck iron. There are some prints on the body. String not original. I've had it in my hands, so I can answer some of your questions.

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Old 5th November 2008, 05:30 PM   #2
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Jamaz,
This flask based on the baldric and the brass rivets looks like something from the Maghreb to me. Why do you think the baldric is not original?
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Old 5th November 2008, 06:58 PM   #3
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Jamaz,

Your flask is certainly of North African provenance but I doubt that it was meant for powder. I have been told that these were water flasks.

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Old 5th November 2008, 08:30 PM   #4
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Yes moroccan those are berber motifs on it. they were used for powder. I have one that has some of the original powder left in it.
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Old 6th November 2008, 02:28 AM   #5
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I agree MOROCCO----and a powder flask, not water.
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Old 6th November 2008, 10:56 AM   #6
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Hello all,

Thank you for your response.

TVV, the baldric has been added by the current owner of flask.

Body wood seems to be very old, with wonderful patina. I don't think it's water flask, because of round "lid" in the back of flask combinated by kind of glue (?) - undoubtedly original, but unfortunately not visible on picture. Anyway, it does not look as waterproof.

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Old 6th November 2008, 02:07 PM   #7
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Here are a few for comparison. Notice how they are carved from a large burl and plugged in back
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Old 6th November 2008, 03:24 PM   #8
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Hi,

Thank you Ward, excellent samples Both are exactly the same as "mine". Do you know exact age of those flasks?

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Old 6th November 2008, 05:37 PM   #9
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19th century could be earilier but I do not think so. These were not made for tourist trade.
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