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Old 17th June 2012, 02:37 PM   #1
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Actually, this one was found to be absolutely original by my friend. He had known it for more than twenty years when it was in a North German collection, still heavily patinated but not for sale, not even for 20,000 Deutschmark.

20 years later, he recognized it at once at Czerny's though it got cleaned meanwhile, and he got it extremely cheap because nobody would believe!

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Katzbalgers are not my special interest, but I know how old blades should look. I was present at the pre auction viewing of this sale and have examined this Katzbalger. This blade was never heavily patinated before it was cleaned. It shows no wear, no laminations and no areas of significant pitting. Quite the contrary, the very light pitting is extremely uniform, typical for not genuine corrosion. The blade of the Katzbalger in question in # 45 looks much more genuine, inspite of the unusual many nicks.

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Old 17th June 2012, 02:53 PM   #2
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How about this one?
About 2 meters length.
Dated circa 1590; German origin.
Transitional ?

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Old 17th June 2012, 06:54 PM   #3
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Hi 'Nando,

Generally this looks fine to me although the form of the quillons seems somewhat unusual.

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Old 20th June 2012, 08:37 AM   #4
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How about this one?
About 2 meters length.
Dated circa 1590; German origin.
Transitional ?

... (lousy) pictures allowed by owner.

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@Fernando beautiful sword, thanks.

there is a possibility that the pas d'ane/donkey hoof is removed, in it's working life?, see pictures of the 2-handed swords for an almost identical sword, image the sword in the bottom center.


@Michael, the quillon form is quite rare but not so unusual, see swords form Landeszeughaus graz for example.

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Old 20th June 2012, 11:48 AM   #5
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@Fernando beautiful sword, thanks.

there is a possibility that the pas d'ane/donkey hoof is removed, in it's working life?, see pictures of the 2-handed swords for an almost identical sword, image the sword in the bottom center.


@Michael, the quillon form is quite rare but not so unusual, see swords form Landeszeughaus graz for example.

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Perfect instance, Jasper,

Thank you so much!

I almost ooverlooked those Styrian types.

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... there is a possibility that the pas d'ane/donkey hoof is removed, in it's working life?, see pictures of the 2-handed swords for an almost identical sword, image the sword in the bottom center. ...
Very good and attentive comparison, Jasper.
I will remember checking for any pas d'ane vestigial signs when i revisit the place where it is exposed.
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