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Old 14th August 2018, 09:00 PM   #1
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This was posted by me some years ago, but not much information was forthcoming http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14033
As there a number of daggers/knives up for ID at present I thought it worth trying again to see if anyone can help. The original post is linked above.
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Old 14th August 2018, 09:30 PM   #2
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I do not think there is any doubt that this was made in Morocco - blade, hilt and scabbard. It is also a very unique piece, possibly one of a kind. The three rings are interesting, giving two different options for attaching the baldric, further suggesting that this may have been a custom order.

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Hi Teodor,
If you check out the posts to the original thread you will see that Gavin posted pics of another of these, which is different in terms of the scabbard make up. The one he shows has two wide bands, whereas mine has no bands.
So there are at least 2 of whatever these are in existance.
I agree that the general blade design is typically Moroccan. The hilt has Indian traits, but that could just be coincidence.
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You are right, there are at least 2 such swords/long daggers, possibly even originating from the same shop. The decorative motif on the hilts and scabbards is 100% Moroccan. The bird's head on the other hand is interesting and unusual and may hold the key to solving the mystery, but I really do not know its origin or significance.

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There is an even older posting (2004) about this same sword here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=64

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I found this sword in Marrakesh, together with a very nice Nimcha, a couple of years ago. According to the dealer, who also had a lot of Sefardic religious items to sell, this is a Jewish sword from the Atlas mountains.
I have looked in several reference books but haven't been able to find anything even close to it?
Does any of you recognize what it is?
The balance of the sword is very good, suitable for slashes as well as follow up circular thrusts, and perfect for the Kali bridging movements I like to use. It's of identical length and weight as the Talibons and Ginuntings I usually practise with.

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PS Sorry about the picture quality but only have a mobile phone camera at the moment.
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There is an even older posting (2004) about this same sword here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=64

Hi Ian,
This post is also in the original link I gave. Note the difference in the scabbard.....mine does not have the 2 wide bands that this one has, so they are different swords.
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Yes, very similar indeed.


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Hi Ian,
This post is also in the original link I gave. Note the difference in the scabbard.....mine does not have the 2 wide bands that this one has, so they are different swords.
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