Small kris from Sumatra?

[Jean]

I own this small kris (the blade is 20 cm long) and I guess that it originates from Sumatra but it is not typical of any regional style so I am looking for your opinions. The piece has age, and the blade & scabbard are matching well and had been together for at least several decades. The Jawa demam hilt, sampir, and buntut are made from ivory.
Regards

[David]

Thanks for posting this Jean. I love patrems. This is a lovely example. I would agree with Sumatra, but i am afraid i cannot pinpoint it further for you. I have found that many patrems do not exactly adhere to regional styles.

[mariusgmioc]

As I don't know too much about kerises, I am not able to give you any valuable input. Just wanted to let you know that I like this keris very much despite not being my pompously decorated style. I find it has some kind of very nicely balanced harmony, hard to describe in words. Thank you for the photos!

[Jean]

Thank you David and Marius.
Since David loves patrems, I am showing 2 more small krisses also expected to originate from Sumatra, but other opinions are welcome:
. The first one is a small Bugis kris from East Sumatra?, the blade is 23 cm long and was recently stained.
. The second one is a miniature kris (blade lenght 16 cm) with a matching Jawa demam hilt from ivory, and the style of the scabbard is peculiar.
Regards

[mariusgmioc]

Love these too, but my favourite remains the first one. Thank you for the photos!
I am pretty sure Alan can tell you much more about the Kerises.
Do you know why are they so small?

[Jean]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Love these too, but my favourite remains the first one. Thank you for the photos!
I am pretty sure Alan can tell you much more about the Kerises.
Do you know why are they so small?

I guess that these pieces were worn by women or even a kid for the last one but who knows?
Regards

[David]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Do you know why are they so small?

Marius, keris of this size from certain regions of Indonesia are generally referred to as patrems and it is usually believed that they are intended for women. Frankly i do not believe nearly enough has been written about these and their place within keris culture, but it does seem to me that they were only intended for women of a certain status. Patrems seem to be found mostly in Jawa, Madura and Sumatra and to a lesser extent in Bali. Words other than "patrem" might be used outside of Jawa.
Similarly small keris can also be found in amongst the Malays, though in those cases they are called Keris Selit or Sisip (which i believe means "slotted", referring to how it is worn in the waistband) and serve a completely different cultural purpose. They are carried mostly by men in that culture and are a secondary and rather ceremonial weapon.