Damaged Kris

Virga · 8th October 2007, 03:57 PM

I was given a Kris from Java by my parents, but the scabbard is slightly damaged.
Should I bring it to the blacksmith or goldsmith to repair or will it only cause more damage?
If possible, can I find out what the history of this piece is? It has only been in the family since the 60's.

David · 8th October 2007, 09:27 PM

Welcome to the forum Virga.
Well, i'm don't think that is gold. Maybe gold plate, but i can'y tell from the photo. So i don't think a goldsmith will be much good to you. Is the pendok just crushed a little or is it actually broken open? Your pictures don't tell. Close-ups would help. Is the metalwork all connected or will the pendok slide off the stem? If it does you may be able to tap out the dents with a long stick and a rubber hammer.
Overall the dress doesn't really look like it is in seriously bad condition. Personally i would be more concerned about restoring the blade.
BTW, the blade might be from Jawa, but the dress is not. Sumatra maybe?

Virga · 8th October 2007, 10:13 PM

Thank you for your comment.

The pendok is still closed at the bottom, but severely crushed. It is made out of brass and the decoration on the pendok is only on 1 side.
The inner side is covered with wood and the pendok can be separated from the top part containing the wranka.
I have to say that I am not an expert on this subject. I will post some close up pictures tomorrow whit daylight.
The deer like creature is a kantjil, a dwarve deer only found on Java.
On the island there are many fables about this animal outwitting its enemies.

A. G. Maisey · 9th October 2007, 12:47 AM

To adequately repair the dents in this pendok, a mandrel is required. Only the maker, or somebody working in this craft would have a suitable mandrel.

A makeshift job could be done by using a long piece of wood with a rounded curve at its tip to just lift the dents a bit from the inside.The dents would be lifted out, or pressed out. It would be worked cold, use of heat would raise the risk of loosening the solder joints.

8th October 2007, 03:57 PM	#1
Virga Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2	Damaged Kris I was given a Kris from Java by my parents, but the scabbard is slightly damaged. Should I bring it to the blacksmith or goldsmith to repair or will it only cause more damage? If possible, can I find out what the history of this piece is? It has only been in the family since the 60's. Attached Images

8th October 2007, 09:27 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,024	Welcome to the forum Virga. Well, i'm don't think that is gold. Maybe gold plate, but i can'y tell from the photo. So i don't think a goldsmith will be much good to you. Is the pendok just crushed a little or is it actually broken open? Your pictures don't tell. Close-ups would help. Is the metalwork all connected or will the pendok slide off the stem? If it does you may be able to tap out the dents with a long stick and a rubber hammer. Overall the dress doesn't really look like it is in seriously bad condition. Personally i would be more concerned about restoring the blade. BTW, the blade might be from Jawa, but the dress is not. Sumatra maybe?

8th October 2007, 10:13 PM	#3
Virga Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2	Thank you for your comment. The pendok is still closed at the bottom, but severely crushed. It is made out of brass and the decoration on the pendok is only on 1 side. The inner side is covered with wood and the pendok can be separated from the top part containing the wranka. I have to say that I am not an expert on this subject. I will post some close up pictures tomorrow whit daylight. The deer like creature is a kantjil, a dwarve deer only found on Java. On the island there are many fables about this animal outwitting its enemies.

9th October 2007, 12:47 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,697	To adequately repair the dents in this pendok, a mandrel is required. Only the maker, or somebody working in this craft would have a suitable mandrel. A makeshift job could be done by using a long piece of wood with a rounded curve at its tip to just lift the dents a bit from the inside.The dents would be lifted out, or pressed out. It would be worked cold, use of heat would raise the risk of loosening the solder joints.