A lance head for coments ... if you care.

fernando · 12th May 2009, 12:35 AM

A regional production ... Portuguese. A hunting or defence (or both) pole weapon. Aledgely from the XVI-XVII century.
The blade is 12 1/2" (32 cms.) long. An off centered socket with a nice square hole for a fixation nail.
The (more) remarkable detail is that the central ridge is only present in either half front or rear blade section, alternately in each side ... if i make myself understood.
The other detail, worthy of speculation, is what form of apendix was there in the interrupted side bar. Looking with attention, one can see that the blade base doesn't have an equal design in both sides, allowing to think what kind of extension existed there ... some kind of (bill) hook? Just my fantasy.
Fernando

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fearn · 12th May 2009, 06:21 AM

Looks like a village smith was making a long spear. That would account for the irregular shape. I think the blade was made long enough to cut. Neat piece, actually.

Best,

F

Matchlock · 12th May 2009, 12:01 PM

Hi Fernando,

The general form reminds me of that of a winged lance head (Flügellanzeneisen) of 9th/10th century date. Most of them measure about 48 cm overall. They are very rare to find.

Best,
Michael

fernando · 12th May 2009, 07:29 PM

Thanks for your input, Fearn.
I agree with the irregular shape reasoning, although i find it ironical tat this smith was a bad shaper in a sense, but in another he was keen enough to forge those alternate blade half ridges with a well determined accuracy.
It is also intriguing that, being both wings of equal short length, one of them would manage to break its end.
Thank you Michael, for the Flügellanzeneisen pictures. It is allways enthusiasming, to have an item compared to examples that are several centuries older

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Eventually the overall length of this one is 47 cms.
Would you say the XVI-XVII century attribution fits well to it?
Fernando

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Matchlock · 12th May 2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Thanks for your input, Fearn.

Eventually the overall length of this one is 47 cms.
Would you say the XVI-XVII century attribution fits well to it?
Fernando

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Yes, Fernando, absolutely - but my expertise on these is nothing I would boast of ...

Michael

12th May 2009, 12:35 AM	#1
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	A lance head for coments ... if you care. A regional production ... Portuguese. A hunting or defence (or both) pole weapon. Aledgely from the XVI-XVII century. The blade is 12 1/2" (32 cms.) long. An off centered socket with a nice square hole for a fixation nail. The (more) remarkable detail is that the central ridge is only present in either half front or rear blade section, alternately in each side ... if i make myself understood. The other detail, worthy of speculation, is what form of apendix was there in the interrupted side bar. Looking with attention, one can see that the blade base doesn't have an equal design in both sides, allowing to think what kind of extension existed there ... some kind of (bill) hook? Just my fantasy. Fernando . Attached Images

12th May 2009, 12:01 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Fernando, The general form reminds me of that of a winged lance head (Flügellanzeneisen) of 9th/10th century date. Most of them measure about 48 cm overall. They are very rare to find. Best, Michael Attached Images

12th May 2009, 07:29 PM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Thanks for your input, Fearn. I agree with the irregular shape reasoning, although i find it ironical tat this smith was a bad shaper in a sense, but in another he was keen enough to forge those alternate blade half ridges with a well determined accuracy. It is also intriguing that, being both wings of equal short length, one of them would manage to break its end. Thank you Michael, for the Flügellanzeneisen pictures. It is allways enthusiasming, to have an item compared to examples that are several centuries older . Eventually the overall length of this one is 47 cms. Would you say the XVI-XVII century attribution fits well to it? Fernando . Attached Images

12th May 2009, 06:21 AM	#2
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Looks like a village smith was making a long spear. That would account for the irregular shape. I think the blade was made long enough to cut. Neat piece, actually. Best, F