A wavy blade from??

Marcus den toom · 10th December 2014, 09:01 PM

I found this wavy blade at a Dutch collectors website. They look for all sorts of excavated items but couldn't determine what this is.

It looks like a short version of the Flamberge swords.. but this is far out of my field of expertise

Maybe some other members can shed light into this subject.
No dimensions or other pictures are available but they are very eager to assist according to there website.
http://www.dutchartefacts.nl/?page_id=322

cornelistromp · 11th December 2014, 03:40 PM

the construction of the short tang, on which the strong tapering handle/grip is fixed with a single pin, so that inside of barrel is not damaged, reveals that this is a plug bayonet. 17th C.!

they have a hilt so could also be used as a dagger.

they were also made from broken rapier blades, whether this is the case here, I do not know.

best,
Jasper

fernando · 11th December 2014, 05:47 PM

Just a guess ...

Doesn't it look like this blade was shortened in both ends ?
This judging by the by the fuller, which ends too far into the point and starts too close from the tang ... no ricasso at all.
As Jasper suggests, a blade either modified for a plug bayonet or for a dagger ... probably salvaged from a broken sword

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theswordcollector · 13th December 2014, 09:53 PM

looks Persian to me .

10th December 2014, 09:01 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 493	A wavy blade from?? I found this wavy blade at a Dutch collectors website. They look for all sorts of excavated items but couldn't determine what this is. It looks like a short version of the Flamberge swords.. but this is far out of my field of expertise Maybe some other members can shed light into this subject. No dimensions or other pictures are available but they are very eager to assist according to there website. http://www.dutchartefacts.nl/?page_id=322

11th December 2014, 03:40 PM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,057	the construction of the short tang, on which the strong tapering handle/grip is fixed with a single pin, so that inside of barrel is not damaged, reveals that this is a plug bayonet. 17th C.! they have a hilt so could also be used as a dagger. they were also made from broken rapier blades, whether this is the case here, I do not know. best, Jasper Attached Images

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11th December 2014, 05:47 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,637	Just a guess ... Doesn't it look like this blade was shortened in both ends ? This judging by the by the fuller, which ends too far into the point and starts too close from the tang ... no ricasso at all. As Jasper suggests, a blade either modified for a plug bayonet or for a dagger ... probably salvaged from a broken sword .

13th December 2014, 09:53 PM	#4
theswordcollector Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Berlin Posts: 48	looks Persian to me .