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Old 10th April 2020, 04:52 PM   #1
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Hello,

I bought this ''theater'' breasplate,
the man who sold it used it for his 10 years'old son for a carnaval knight costume...

Some parts ( the fleur de lys...) seems just a ''cheap'' ''recent'' replica
but the ties seems quite old ( 19th century ? ),
breast and back are well made and there is a stamp.

( I don't think they did that for theatre use ...)

Have you an idea about age of this kind of replicas ?

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Old 10th April 2020, 04:57 PM   #2
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the brass fleur de lys a later add ? ( staples fixation on the picture... )


The orange-red color is not rust, there was a varnish on it...
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Old 11th April 2020, 06:57 AM   #3
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Hello not that bad no ?

Any comments ??

Another info that can tilt the balance in favour of the ''cheap'' replica is his light weight: 3,2 kg for both parts
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Old 11th April 2020, 08:15 AM   #4
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Hi,

Indeed, it is a replica, no doubt. Maybe current 20 th. For the weight, there are also very light breastplates from the 16th and 17th centuries too.
So it is not always a proof of the age or not of the piece.
I think that here you have to look at the appearance of the metal, the way it is worked, I think very recent.
But difficult to say the precise age.
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Old 11th April 2020, 02:30 PM   #5
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Besides the possibility of theatrical use potentially with modifications along the way (especially if from a wardrobe rental service), there was quite a market for good quality reproduction armor around a hundred years ago for decorator purposes and this may explain the aged leather straps.
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Hi,

Indeed, it is a replica, no doubt. Maybe current 20 th. For the weight, there are also very light breastplates from the 16th and 17th centuries too.
So it is not always a proof of the age or not of the piece.
I think that here you have to look at the appearance of the metal, the way it is worked, I think very recent.
But difficult to say the precise age.

I would concur with the not so early 20th century replica theory. If left unmaintained, leather ageing doesn't take so long to occur. Definitely not a field device, i am afraid .
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Old 11th April 2020, 08:24 PM   #7
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Hello and thank you all for your comments !!

Nice if it's an old reproduction !

When I saw it, the details and the small size was a good sign for a not too recent repro work,
quite all the modern replicas are full size...

I knew it was not a battlefield brother in arms but found weird it was just used as a carnaval costume...

I will try to clean it and restore the leather straps

Kind regards and Happy Eastern Everybody !!
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Old 11th April 2020, 09:16 PM   #8
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For the not too recent repro argument,

I just wanted to add that the leather belt is a later replacement , perhaps 30-50 years old , more recent than the side and back one in black leather . ( upper parts are missing )

Kind regards- Happy Eastern !
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