Pattern of forging

athena · 5th June 2006, 02:18 AM

There are some well-known patterns, such as horse-teeth, round cloud, twistcore, etc. And there are more patterns on Tibetan blade, I even cannot call the name. How do you think of them?

Rick · 5th June 2006, 02:23 AM

Athena , the most common style of pattern welding seen on Tibetan blades is called 'hairpin forging' in the West .

RSWORD · 6th June 2006, 02:47 AM

Athena

I think for a long time collectors did not know that one could find intricate patterns in Chinese blades. In recent times, with more blades being polished to reveal the patterning, more and more people are coming to appreciate the patterns you have mentioned. I find visual laminations of any form to be a much underappreciated art form and I cannot help but think that in times past these patterns had to have held some artistic merit along with representation of the smiths skill.

athena · 8th June 2006, 09:19 AM

RSWORD

Here are patterns I've seen on Tibetan blade, I also think that in times past these patterns had to have held some artistic merit along with representation of the smiths skill.

Mark · 8th June 2006, 03:28 PM

I love the patterns in Tibetan blades. I've never seen ones as intricate as these, though, Athena. Beautiful! The first almost rather like a keris pamor.

I got a close-up look at a liu wei dao (willow leaf sabre) with a horse tooth pattern on a recent trip to Longquan in China. It actually is in the History of Steel exhibition, now (I was there helping evaluate and pick - well sort of

- swords for the exhibition). Anyway, Zhou Zhen Wu, the owner, who is himself a great smith (again the Macao connection - he represented China in the Masters of Fire exhibition), has been trying to figure out how the pattern was achieved. It is not a temper pattern (at least his wasn't), but is sanmai. So far he hasn't had success. It is one of those lost arts in Chinese swordmaking.

PS: Here's a little game of "Where's Waldo" -- can you spot me in the pictures in Antonio's article?

athena · 9th June 2006, 01:54 AM

Longquan is close to our hometown.

Threetemper · 14th June 2006, 04:07 AM

Beautiful patterns on both blades. I have never seen the second one before.

5th June 2006, 02:18 AM	#1
athena Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 42	Pattern of forging There are some well-known patterns, such as horse-teeth, round cloud, twistcore, etc. And there are more patterns on Tibetan blade, I even cannot call the name. How do you think of them?

8th June 2006, 09:19 AM	#4
athena Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 42	RSWORD Here are patterns I've seen on Tibetan blade, I also think that in times past these patterns had to have held some artistic merit along with representation of the smiths skill. Attached Images

14th June 2006, 04:07 AM	#7
Threetemper Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oakhurst,NJ Posts: 14	pattern Beautiful patterns on both blades. I have never seen the second one before.

5th June 2006, 02:23 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Athena , the most common style of pattern welding seen on Tibetan blades is called 'hairpin forging' in the West .

6th June 2006, 02:47 AM	#3
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	Athena I think for a long time collectors did not know that one could find intricate patterns in Chinese blades. In recent times, with more blades being polished to reveal the patterning, more and more people are coming to appreciate the patterns you have mentioned. I find visual laminations of any form to be a much underappreciated art form and I cannot help but think that in times past these patterns had to have held some artistic merit along with representation of the smiths skill.

8th June 2006, 03:28 PM	#5
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I love the patterns in Tibetan blades. I've never seen ones as intricate as these, though, Athena. Beautiful! The first almost rather like a keris pamor. I got a close-up look at a liu wei dao (willow leaf sabre) with a horse tooth pattern on a recent trip to Longquan in China. It actually is in the History of Steel exhibition, now (I was there helping evaluate and pick - well sort of - swords for the exhibition). Anyway, Zhou Zhen Wu, the owner, who is himself a great smith (again the Macao connection - he represented China in the Masters of Fire exhibition), has been trying to figure out how the pattern was achieved. It is not a temper pattern (at least his wasn't), but is sanmai. So far he hasn't had success. It is one of those lost arts in Chinese swordmaking. PS: Here's a little game of "Where's Waldo" -- can you spot me in the pictures in Antonio's article?

9th June 2006, 01:54 AM	#6
athena Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 42	Longquan is close to our hometown.