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24th January 2006, 11:26 AM
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Mongolian?
What is this according to you? Its owner claims it to be Mongolian, I havent seen it in real. Looks auathentic or not? Any opinions?
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24th January 2006, 02:09 PM
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A fancy Lohar !
Do Mongols carry Lohars ? |
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24th January 2006, 04:06 PM
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Nice!
A royal lohar ? Did the King/Noble have to make it himself ? |
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24th January 2006, 05:18 PM
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Lohar. I dont have any idea about that.Google gives clue that it is Afghan war axe,right? Do you think this one is antique and produced as a weapon?
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24th January 2006, 05:38 PM
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Here's a thread about these from the old forum.
http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002389.html |
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24th January 2006, 06:00 PM
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It could be a composite piece made from a (not very traditional) lohar and a silver ornament. Easy to make and attractive to eyes in a baazar.
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24th January 2006, 06:08 PM
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I think I side with Yannis, it has to be said that the turquoise and tassel bead work look very new indeed, especially the turquoise. Tim
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25th January 2006, 09:19 AM
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Its definatelly not Mongolian, it is an Afghano-Pakistani Lohar. However this seems the most solid type, the non-composite, as in oposite of the folding type. I warn you, the effectiveness of the Lohar as a combat instrument has been highly debated, most people however agreed about the lack of lethality.
Andrew, you brought good memories to the table, that thread, that person, Smilodon Fatalis, fuhgetaboutit...  This is likely the most ornated Lohar I've seen so far! Last edited by Radu Transylvanicus; 25th January 2006 at 10:29 AM. |
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25th January 2006, 01:40 PM
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28th January 2006, 11:49 PM
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Erlikhan,
This is very decorative work but not historically accurate and so subject to doubt-- the most general possible form of the lohar has been retained, but the workmanship itself is thoroughly contemporary. This includes the motifs, lavish use of precious metal and stones. By the same token, if the metal were to be revealed as plated brass and the stones as plastic, it would to no less an extent indicate modern work so distant is it from what it purports to represent. If you are in Istanbul, you will find numerous examples in the Grand Bazaar offered by the Central Asian contingent. Interestingly, the film TROY had many of its costumes and properties composed by the same shops, reputedly by Turkmen and Afghan refugees in Pakistan. Ham |
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1st February 2006, 07:14 AM
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Thank you very much for all the info. I vote for being touristic too. There is one more picture of which is sent to me. It has folding mechanism,and is said to be sharp. Higher possibility of being authentic, not?
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1st February 2006, 07:27 AM
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Can opener, pick axe or nose pick
This things are interesting for shure but definatelly not fit for combat INMHO this is more of the Swiss army knife rather than the Japanese ninja kusarigama. Still I cant believe no one can tell certainly 100% what in the world were or are they used for (...steaming...) !
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