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Old 27th December 2018, 09:22 AM   #1
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Default Batak Sword - metal handle - More info?

Though I have slown (slowed down) collecting, but was walking through a flea market and saw this Batak sword in a pile of junk. The seller offered a very low price and I took it home with me.

For your perusal and opinions?
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Old 27th December 2018, 09:21 PM   #2
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Not my cup of tea, but both are undeniably very pretty.
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Old 28th December 2018, 01:21 AM   #3
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Very nice...pretty enough to be your new avatar.
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Old 28th December 2018, 02:59 AM   #4
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Not my cup of tea, but both are undeniably very pretty.
Thanks, Ariel. What are your favorites, maybe I might have one to post. Bill
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Hello Bill,

It's a kalasan from the Toba Bataks.

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Old 4th January 2019, 11:26 PM   #6
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Hello Bill,

It's a kalasan from the Toba Bataks.

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Thank you Detlef. It is good to put a name to it!

It seems quite authentic. Your opinion?
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Old 4th January 2019, 11:36 PM   #7
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Hello Bill,

Blade stats would be great!

As in the companion thread I'd agree with this being clearly Toba style while steering away from calling it a kalasan.

If we go with the common collectors' terminology, I'd tend toward tagging this as a rather longish piso ni datu even if this stretches things a bit.

Age is tough to impossible to assess from pics. If pressed for a guesstimate, I'd tend towards the first half of 20th c. (or later).

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Old 5th January 2019, 12:20 AM   #8
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Hello Bill,

I just saw that we crossed posts.


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Age is tough to impossible to assess from pics. If pressed for a guesstimate, I'd tend towards the first half of 20th c. (or later).
Maybe I'm a bit too cautious - the craftsmanship is above average for the period and warrants close study (the black painted scabbard may be a later "restoration" attempt...)

BTW, for a piece with resembling motifs cp. Fig. viii.16 in Sibeth & Carpenter (2007).

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It seems quite authentic. Your opinion?
Yes Bill, I think as well that it's an authentic piece, would be glad to have such a Toba sword in my own collection. End of 19th to early 20th century would be my guess.

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I'd agree with this being clearly Toba style while steering away from calling it a kalasan.

If we go with the common collectors' terminology, I'd tend toward tagging this as a rather longish piso ni datu even if this stretches things a bit.
Hello Kai,

yes agree with you that it isn't correct to call it kalasan, piso ni datu would be a better description.

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What is the material covering the scabbard...tar/paint/resin of some sort? I am surprised it also extends to the fittings.
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What is the material covering the scabbard...tar/paint/resin of some sort? I am surprised it also extends to the fittings.
I will have a closer look. I usually try to keep 'em like I find 'em. But stop rust or degradation. I have over cleaned in the past.
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