another old ( I hope ! ) shield ! Ottoman piece ??

francantolin · 5th October 2020, 06:05 PM

Hello everybody,

for this one I couldn't resist, ( always loved old stuff !)
and I already have it in my hands !

Looks like a mix between an old ottoman kalkan shield
( iron pieces and the handle ) and an indian dhal !

Maybe another ethnic origin ?

It's made of thick leather ( which animal ?) and pieces of iron.

18th-19th century ? or earlier ? or just looks like old ?

Anybody has an idea about the leather origin ?

Kind regards

francantolin · 5th October 2020, 06:07 PM

other pictures...

glad if somebody give me advice about cleaning/restore it

francantolin · 5th October 2020, 07:15 PM

this one not bad for see the convex form and the iron mounts...

Kubur · 5th October 2020, 07:53 PM

Hi

mmmmm I would say a mix between a dhal shield and an Indian shield

Ren Ren · 5th October 2020, 10:42 PM

Afghanistan?

francantolin · 6th October 2020, 02:32 PM

Hello,

Thank you for your message !

yes it looks like an indian dhal with his four bosses but I haven't seen one with this kind of central shape and the lateral iron '' stenghtening'' that make me think of other origin with this kind of central cross...

It's not a later ad, I put a ''close'' picture, it was made first, before the bosses have been fixed.

For the moment, I cleaned it with baking soda and special stuff against parasites / pests ( it was reeally necessary ! )
then a little oil on because the leather was cracked in many parts.

Change the color, not that bad,
we see a red skin under surface ( not transluscent, don't think rhino back )
maybe it will stay like that or becomes already lighter...

What do you think about all ? age, origin clenaing it more ?...

Kind regards

5th October 2020, 06:05 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 815	another old ( I hope ! ) shield ! Ottoman piece ?? Hello everybody, for this one I couldn't resist, ( always loved old stuff !) and I already have it in my hands ! Looks like a mix between an old ottoman kalkan shield ( iron pieces and the handle ) and an indian dhal ! Maybe another ethnic origin ? It's made of thick leather ( which animal ?) and pieces of iron. 18th-19th century ? or earlier ? or just looks like old ? Anybody has an idea about the leather origin ? Kind regards Attached Images

5th October 2020, 06:07 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 815	other pictures... glad if somebody give me advice about cleaning/restore it Attached Images

5th October 2020, 07:15 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 815	this one not bad for see the convex form and the iron mounts... Attached Images

6th October 2020, 02:32 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 815	Hello, Thank you for your message ! yes it looks like an indian dhal with his four bosses but I haven't seen one with this kind of central shape and the lateral iron '' stenghtening'' that make me think of other origin with this kind of central cross... It's not a later ad, I put a ''close'' picture, it was made first, before the bosses have been fixed. For the moment, I cleaned it with baking soda and special stuff against parasites / pests ( it was reeally necessary ! ) then a little oil on because the leather was cracked in many parts. Change the color, not that bad, we see a red skin under surface ( not transluscent, don't think rhino back ) maybe it will stay like that or becomes already lighter... What do you think about all ? age, origin clenaing it more ?... Kind regards Attached Images

5th October 2020, 07:53 PM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi mmmmm I would say a mix between a dhal shield and an Indian shield

5th October 2020, 10:42 PM	#5
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 365	Afghanistan?