Sundang, moro kris or whatelse? - Page 2

Flavio · 12th October 2008, 05:22 PM

Michael, that's good! It's always better to know if more persons think the same think more than 2 or 3, don't you think so?

Andrew · 12th October 2008, 05:49 PM

That sure looks like a scarf weld to me. I might think differently were I to handle this thing, but from the photos it looks fairly obvious.

Rick · 12th October 2008, 07:43 PM

Judging from the two sides of the blade it sure looks like it may have been broken and repaired .

Either that or it's a thinner spot on the blade .

Flavio · 12th October 2008, 07:55 PM

OOOOOPPPPPSSSS

Yes Rick it's for 3 times the same side.... but you can see the other side on the pics that I have posted before

Anyway here are pics of both sides, thank you

Rick · 12th October 2008, 08:17 PM

Yes, stupid me .

I didn't realise until I had posted; I edited but you caught me anyway .

I don't see why this couldn't be a Philippine blade that entered a culture where keris and Sundangs are ritually etched .

Flavio, do you think the blade was re-welded at that area ?
Is the blade any thicker or thinner there ?

Flavio · 16th October 2008, 09:17 PM

Hi Rick,

sorry for the delay... I was digging at an Iron age necropolis and I'm very busy

Ah, anyone here is interested to see an iron sword with scabbard just excavated? It's just 2800 years old....!

Rick, the blade is neither thicker neither thinner. Simply the thickness reduces from the zone of the gangya toward the point. I don't think that is a scarf welded blade, just the lamination is made in such way

.

Thank you

Rick · 16th October 2008, 11:22 PM

Hi Flavio, thanks .

That is an interesting effect that I have not seen before .

Flavio · 17th October 2008, 11:24 AM

Hi Rick, you're welcome

Seems that this kris/sundang shows some peculiar aspects rare to see on other pieces

Flavio

12th October 2008, 07:55 PM	#34
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	OOOOOPPPPPSSSS Yes Rick it's for 3 times the same side.... but you can see the other side on the pics that I have posted before Anyway here are pics of both sides, thank you Attached Images

12th October 2008, 05:22 PM	#31
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Michael, that's good! It's always better to know if more persons think the same think more than 2 or 3, don't you think so?

12th October 2008, 05:49 PM	#32
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	That sure looks like a scarf weld to me. I might think differently were I to handle this thing, but from the photos it looks fairly obvious.

12th October 2008, 07:43 PM	#33
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	Judging from the two sides of the blade it sure looks like it may have been broken and repaired . Either that or it's a thinner spot on the blade .

12th October 2008, 08:17 PM	#35
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	Yes, stupid me . I didn't realise until I had posted; I edited but you caught me anyway . I don't see why this couldn't be a Philippine blade that entered a culture where keris and Sundangs are ritually etched . Flavio, do you think the blade was re-welded at that area ? Is the blade any thicker or thinner there ?

16th October 2008, 09:17 PM	#36
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Rick, sorry for the delay... I was digging at an Iron age necropolis and I'm very busy Ah, anyone here is interested to see an iron sword with scabbard just excavated? It's just 2800 years old....! Rick, the blade is neither thicker neither thinner. Simply the thickness reduces from the zone of the gangya toward the point. I don't think that is a scarf welded blade, just the lamination is made in such way . Thank you

16th October 2008, 11:22 PM	#37
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	Hi Flavio, thanks . That is an interesting effect that I have not seen before .

17th October 2008, 11:24 AM	#38
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Rick, you're welcome Seems that this kris/sundang shows some peculiar aspects rare to see on other pieces Flavio