Sabre ca. 1630

corrado26 · 23rd July 2016, 07:57 AM

I have got this campaign sabre last week and wonder if someone here in this forum has ever seen the mark or sign on the left side of the blade. It shows a hand holding a falchion and I'd like to know what this sign stands for. Another mark on this blade is a Greece letter "Pi" and a crescent moon what might stand for Standler at Munich. Total length is 107cm.

corrado26

cornelistromp · 23rd July 2016, 10:41 AM

sorry for the short reply, Iam abroad surfing .
the falchion is the maker sign of the workshop Stantler and your sabre is a so called half hilt popular in fe Holland Sweden Germany and Switzerland 1625-1650

ulfberth · 23rd July 2016, 12:56 PM

Hello Corrado,

That's a fine campaign sword you have and in good condition to !
The Stantler mark makes it even more rare and interesting, congratulations !

kind regards

Ulfberth

corrado26 · 23rd July 2016, 02:45 PM

Thanks a lot for both replies, so I learnt that the falchion is the maker's mark of the workshop Stantler. Until today I just knew the crescent moon and the "Pi" beeing the Stantler-mark.
corrado26

NeilUK · 24th July 2016, 01:43 PM

Hi Corrado,
The falchion mark seems to have been used (though not very often) by Christoph Stantler I. A good, sharp, example can be seen on a two-hand sword in the Vienna Historisches Museum, inv. no. 161.162, from the old Burgerliche Zeughaus, dated 1573.
A very interesting sword you have there, by the way.
Regards, Neil

corrado26 · 25th July 2016, 01:49 PM

Hi Neil,

many thanks for this helpful information. By the way this sword was sold by HH in Munich, auction 66 in 2013 lot 3402. But I wasn't the buyer at that time. Sometimes one has to wait for a better opportunity...............

corrado26

Jim McDougall · 25th July 2016, 06:10 PM

Outstanding info on these marks guys!!!
That bizarre configuration of arcs and lines looks almost like some sort of western attempt at Islamic script at a glance. Then again closely it seems more a geometric spasm.

Can we get a close up of the 'pi' ? These marks are often elusive and varied as they are so often degenerated to almost being indiscernible.

Jasper! Kowabunga dude!!!! Where ya at???

Surfs up.

mariusgmioc · 26th July 2016, 12:43 PM

Can we see the whole thing please?

corrado26 · 27th July 2016, 07:29 AM

here it is in full length

mariusgmioc · 27th July 2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

here it is in full length

Thanks!

23rd July 2016, 07:57 AM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,166	Sabre ca. 1630 I have got this campaign sabre last week and wonder if someone here in this forum has ever seen the mark or sign on the left side of the blade. It shows a hand holding a falchion and I'd like to know what this sign stands for. Another mark on this blade is a Greece letter "Pi" and a crescent moon what might stand for Standler at Munich. Total length is 107cm. corrado26 Attached Images

27th July 2016, 07:29 AM	#9
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,166	here it is in full length Attached Images

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23rd July 2016, 10:41 AM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,057	sorry for the short reply, Iam abroad surfing . the falchion is the maker sign of the workshop Stantler and your sabre is a so called half hilt popular in fe Holland Sweden Germany and Switzerland 1625-1650

23rd July 2016, 12:56 PM	#3
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 382	Hello Corrado, That's a fine campaign sword you have and in good condition to ! The Stantler mark makes it even more rare and interesting, congratulations ! kind regards Ulfberth

23rd July 2016, 02:45 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,166	Thanks a lot for both replies, so I learnt that the falchion is the maker's mark of the workshop Stantler. Until today I just knew the crescent moon and the "Pi" beeing the Stantler-mark. corrado26

24th July 2016, 01:43 PM	#5
NeilUK Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 122	Hi Corrado, The falchion mark seems to have been used (though not very often) by Christoph Stantler I. A good, sharp, example can be seen on a two-hand sword in the Vienna Historisches Museum, inv. no. 161.162, from the old Burgerliche Zeughaus, dated 1573. A very interesting sword you have there, by the way. Regards, Neil

25th July 2016, 01:49 PM	#6
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,166	Hi Neil, many thanks for this helpful information. By the way this sword was sold by HH in Munich, auction 66 in 2013 lot 3402. But I wasn't the buyer at that time. Sometimes one has to wait for a better opportunity............... corrado26

25th July 2016, 06:10 PM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,735	Outstanding info on these marks guys!!! That bizarre configuration of arcs and lines looks almost like some sort of western attempt at Islamic script at a glance. Then again closely it seems more a geometric spasm. Can we get a close up of the 'pi' ? These marks are often elusive and varied as they are so often degenerated to almost being indiscernible. Jasper! Kowabunga dude!!!! Where ya at??? Surfs up.

26th July 2016, 12:43 PM	#8
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,869	Can we see the whole thing please?