current status of shipping elephant tusks /ivory materials out of USA/Europe

Green · 28th June 2022, 08:17 AM

Many thanks again Milandro for this concise table.

My understanding is the ivory meant here are elephant tusks/ivory . But no mention regarding marine ivories (whales/walrus etc). Does this mean that for items containing other ivories we still can buy and import (with proper documentations)?

Also, does anyone have guidelines for USA?

David · 28th June 2022, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Green

Many thanks again Milandro for this concise table.

My understanding is the ivory meant here are elephant tusks/ivory . But no mention regarding marine ivories (whales/walrus etc). Does this mean that for items containing other ivories we still can buy and import (with proper documentations)?

Also, does anyone have guidelines for USA?

I'm not at all certain about the UK rulings on this, but i believe that in most other places marine ivory is dealt with in the same manner as elephant ivory.
It should also be noted that in most cases customs officials are not that well schooled in determining the difference between elephant and marine ivory. If they find it without the proper paperwork they will probably confiscate it no matter whether it is elephant, hippo, walrus, whale or dugong. Do NOT count on them being able to tell.

fernando · 28th June 2022, 06:30 PM

Amen to that !.

SidJ · 10th July 2022, 10:28 AM

In the UK the Ivory Act 2018 is now in force. A search will bring up the Act online. Government guidance on the application of the Act is also available. The Act only applies to tusks from living species of elephant. Mammoth and marine ivories are not covered. There is a technical allowance of ivory of it makes up less than 10% by volume of the whole item subject to other caveats. All auction houses in the UK have stopped selling ivory as I understand it. The penalties are stiff for buyer and seller and the government will be looking to set an example by enforcing the Act.

milandro · 10th July 2022, 10:32 AM

actually there has been an update to that 1988

6 June 2022

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...idance-artwork

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/.../contents/made

Provisions coming into force on 6th June 2022

4. The following provisions of the Act come into force on 6th June 2022 —

(a)section 14 (power to stop and search persons);

(b)section 15 (power to stop and search vehicles);

(c)section 16 (power to board and search vessels and aircraft);

(d)section 17 (warrants authorising entry and search of premises);

(e)section 18 (further provision about search warrants) and Schedule 2 (search warrants: England and Wales and Northern Ireland);

(f)section 19 (powers of examination etc);

(g)section 20 (power to require production of documents etc);

(h)section 21 (powers of seizure etc);

(i)section 22 (accredited civilian officers: powers of entry);

(j)section 23 (other powers of accredited civilian officers);

(k)section 24 (excluded items);

(l)section 25 (further provision about seizure under section 21 or 23);

(m)section 26 (notices and records in relation to seized items);

(n)section 27 (powers of entry, search and seizure: supplementary provision);

(o)section 28 (offences of obstruction etc);

(p)section 29 (retention of seized items);

(q)section 30 (forfeiture of seized items by court on application);

(r)section 31 (appeal against decision under section 30);

(s)section 32 (return of item to person entitled to it, or disposal if return impracticable);

(t)section 33 (forfeiture by court following conviction);

(u)section 34 (application of Customs and Excise Management Act 1979);

(v)section 35 (contracts of insurance etc);

(w)section 36 (liability of corporate officers for offences by bodies corporate etc);

(x)paragraphs 4, 9, 19, 20 and 23 to 24 of Schedule 1 (civil sanctions).

28th June 2022, 08:17 AM	#1
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 308	Many thanks again Milandro for this concise table. My understanding is the ivory meant here are elephant tusks/ivory . But no mention regarding marine ivories (whales/walrus etc). Does this mean that for items containing other ivories we still can buy and import (with proper documentations)? Also, does anyone have guidelines for USA?

28th June 2022, 06:30 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,650	Amen to that !.

10th July 2022, 10:28 AM	#4
SidJ Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 177	In the UK the Ivory Act 2018 is now in force. A search will bring up the Act online. Government guidance on the application of the Act is also available. The Act only applies to tusks from living species of elephant. Mammoth and marine ivories are not covered. There is a technical allowance of ivory of it makes up less than 10% by volume of the whole item subject to other caveats. All auction houses in the UK have stopped selling ivory as I understand it. The penalties are stiff for buyer and seller and the government will be looking to set an example by enforcing the Act.

10th July 2022, 10:32 AM	#5
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 422	actually there has been an update to that 1988 6 June 2022 https://www.gov.uk/government/public...idance-artwork https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/.../contents/made Provisions coming into force on 6th June 2022 4. The following provisions of the Act come into force on 6th June 2022 — (a)section 14 (power to stop and search persons); (b)section 15 (power to stop and search vehicles); (c)section 16 (power to board and search vessels and aircraft); (d)section 17 (warrants authorising entry and search of premises); (e)section 18 (further provision about search warrants) and Schedule 2 (search warrants: England and Wales and Northern Ireland); (f)section 19 (powers of examination etc); (g)section 20 (power to require production of documents etc); (h)section 21 (powers of seizure etc); (i)section 22 (accredited civilian officers: powers of entry); (j)section 23 (other powers of accredited civilian officers); (k)section 24 (excluded items); (l)section 25 (further provision about seizure under section 21 or 23); (m)section 26 (notices and records in relation to seized items); (n)section 27 (powers of entry, search and seizure: supplementary provision); (o)section 28 (offences of obstruction etc); (p)section 29 (retention of seized items); (q)section 30 (forfeiture of seized items by court on application); (r)section 31 (appeal against decision under section 30); (s)section 32 (return of item to person entitled to it, or disposal if return impracticable); (t)section 33 (forfeiture by court following conviction); (u)section 34 (application of Customs and Excise Management Act 1979); (v)section 35 (contracts of insurance etc); (w)section 36 (liability of corporate officers for offences by bodies corporate etc); (x)paragraphs 4, 9, 19, 20 and 23 to 24 of Schedule 1 (civil sanctions).