Newbie with my first Vietnamese sword

canbrit · 18th October 2016, 07:17 PM

Hello to you all. This is my first Vietnamese Sword. My husband collects old British and Spanish ones but I liked the look of this one and came to your site to research.

Many of the Asian swords out there seem to be lumped as coming from 4 or 5 different countries, so that's not the way to find out.

Would someone be kind enough to give me feedback on this one?

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 21st October 2016, 09:17 PM

I seem to recall that the figure S stamped in series on these blades was similar in meaning to those bite marks (hogsback/ eyelash marks) on blades from Genoa...as a mark of excellence. Please see http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=183 and http://mandarinmansion.com/antique-vietnamese-arms

Is the round guard missing?

Sajen · 22nd October 2016, 02:47 AM

Hello Canbrit,

welcome to the forum, good to have another woman as member!

Your sword isn't from Vietnam but from Thailand, called dha or daab and maybe a Vietnam war bringback from an US soldier. The sword is very recent, i.e. from the 70ties last century. Here is a link to an older thread about this sort of dha: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=vietnam
There is mentioned from Andrew also an old thread written from Ian but I can't find it in the moment.

Best regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 22nd October 2016, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Is the round guard missing?

Hi Ibrahiim,

the shown sword isn't from Vietnam but a Thai sword, they normally don't have a guard.

Regards,
Detlef

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 22nd October 2016, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Ibrahiim,

the shown sword isn't from Vietnam but a Thai sword, they normally don't have a guard.

Regards,
Detlef

Ah well spotted Sagen... I thought as I was looking up Vietnamese swords; .."THATS FUNNY THIS ONE HAS NO GUARD"??

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 22nd October 2016, 10:09 PM

Some supporting detail... Please See http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001291.html

VANDOO · 23rd October 2016, 03:32 AM

WELCOME TO THE FORUM

MANY OF THESE WERE BROUGHT BACK DURING THE VIETNAM WAR SO THINKING IT IS A VIETNAMESE SWORD IS NATURAL. THERE WERE SOUVENIR SWORDS AS WELL AS REAL TRIBAL ONES BROUGHT BACK FROM ALL THE SURROUNDING COUNTRIES THOSE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE WAR AND THOSE LIKE THAILAND WHERE LOTS OF TROOPS WENT FOR LEAVE. YOURS SEEMS TO BE A USABLE SWORD NOT JUST ONE MADE FOR A SOUVENIR SO IT SHOULD HAVE PROPER BALANCE AND A SHARP EDGE. .

BANDOOK · 23rd October 2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

WELCOME TO THE FORUM

MANY OF THESE WERE BROUGHT BACK DURING THE VIETNAM WAR SO THINKING IT IS A VIETNAMESE SWORD IS NATURAL. THERE WERE SOUVENIR SWORDS AS WELL AS REAL TRIBAL ONES BROUGHT BACK FROM ALL THE SURROUNDING COUNTRIES THOSE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE WAR AND THOSE LIKE THAILAND WHERE LOTS OF TROOPS WENT FOR LEAVE. YOURS SEEMS TO BE A USABLE SWORD NOT JUST ONE MADE FOR A SOUVENIR SO IT SHOULD HAVE PROPER BALANCE AND A SHARP EDGE. .

HERE IS MY EXAMPLE WHICH I HAD POSTED FEW WEEKS BACK,CHEERS RAJESH

Sajen · 23rd October 2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BANDOOK

HERE IS MY EXAMPLE WHICH I HAD POSTED FEW WEEKS BACK,CHEERS RAJESH

Hi Rajesh,

yes, we never come back to this one. Your's as well from this time frame.

Regards,
Detlef

canbrit · 24th October 2016, 08:03 PM

I was reading so much on here that I really did think it was Vietnam, but it's Thai so I have loads to learn. I appreciate the knowledge you all have very much.

Can

BANDOOK · 25th October 2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Rajesh,

yes, we never come back to this one. Your's as well from this time frame.

Regards,
Detlef

HI DETLEF
SORRY BEEN BIT LAZY HERE ARE MY PICTURES ,PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR FEEDBACK

Sajen · 25th October 2016, 11:32 AM

Hi Rajesh,

very recent, sorry, one of the bring back pieces from Vietnam war maybe or from tourists.

Regards,
Detlef

BANDOOK · 26th October 2016, 10:51 AM

THANKS I HAD THIS FOR A LONG TIME,ITS GOOD TO KNOW,SOME WEAPONS U JUST BUY BUT NOT USED FOR THE CULTURE,TNX FOR UR INPUTS

Sajen · 26th October 2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BANDOOK

THANKS I HAD THIS FOR A LONG TIME,ITS GOOD TO KNOW,SOME WEAPONS U JUST BUY BUT NOT USED FOR THE CULTURE,TNX FOR UR INPUTS

You're welcome Rajesh!

18th October 2016, 07:17 PM	#1
canbrit Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 2	Newbie with my first Vietnamese sword Hello to you all. This is my first Vietnamese Sword. My husband collects old British and Spanish ones but I liked the look of this one and came to your site to research. Many of the Asian swords out there seem to be lumped as coming from 4 or 5 different countries, so that's not the way to find out. Would someone be kind enough to give me feedback on this one? Attached Images

21st October 2016, 09:17 PM	#2
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	I seem to recall that the figure S stamped in series on these blades was similar in meaning to those bite marks (hogsback/ eyelash marks) on blades from Genoa...as a mark of excellence. Please see http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=183 and http://mandarinmansion.com/antique-vietnamese-arms Is the round guard missing? Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 21st October 2016 at 09:27 PM.

22nd October 2016, 10:09 PM	#6
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Some supporting detail... Please See http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001291.html Attached Images

24th October 2016, 08:03 PM	#10
canbrit Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 2	Thank you all so much!! I was reading so much on here that I really did think it was Vietnam, but it's Thai so I have loads to learn. I appreciate the knowledge you all have very much. Can

22nd October 2016, 02:47 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,481	Hello Canbrit, welcome to the forum, good to have another woman as member! Your sword isn't from Vietnam but from Thailand, called dha or daab and maybe a Vietnam war bringback from an US soldier. The sword is very recent, i.e. from the 70ties last century. Here is a link to an older thread about this sort of dha: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=vietnam There is mentioned from Andrew also an old thread written from Ian but I can't find it in the moment. Best regards, Detlef

23rd October 2016, 03:32 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WELCOME TO THE FORUM MANY OF THESE WERE BROUGHT BACK DURING THE VIETNAM WAR SO THINKING IT IS A VIETNAMESE SWORD IS NATURAL. THERE WERE SOUVENIR SWORDS AS WELL AS REAL TRIBAL ONES BROUGHT BACK FROM ALL THE SURROUNDING COUNTRIES THOSE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE WAR AND THOSE LIKE THAILAND WHERE LOTS OF TROOPS WENT FOR LEAVE. YOURS SEEMS TO BE A USABLE SWORD NOT JUST ONE MADE FOR A SOUVENIR SO IT SHOULD HAVE PROPER BALANCE AND A SHARP EDGE. .

25th October 2016, 11:32 AM	#12
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,481	Hi Rajesh, very recent, sorry, one of the bring back pieces from Vietnam war maybe or from tourists. Regards, Detlef

26th October 2016, 10:51 AM	#13
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	THANKS I HAD THIS FOR A LONG TIME,ITS GOOD TO KNOW,SOME WEAPONS U JUST BUY BUT NOT USED FOR THE CULTURE,TNX FOR UR INPUTS